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  • ashkam
    07-24 11:25 PM
    If you were on OPT you will have Allien# but the EB Catogery gets an allien# after they apply for AOS.

    The A# which is present both on the I-140 and the OPT EAD card.

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  • wellwishergc
    07-13 10:54 AM
    Right on! You are absolutely right! It just needs people to amplify their vision. Even if there is a hidden agenda for somebody else, why shouldn't you be happy if it benefits both you and the other person?

    As anyone in this forums know about this "may-a-times-told" joke about a bunch of people in an airplane that have to make some hard decision on dropping out some of thier own to save the flying aircraft. As one by one jumps out of the aircraft for a noble cause of saving the other person - our own Desi pushed the next one crying " Gandhiji ki Jai" - saving himself instead of others.

    The moral of the story (which people never really bothered to infer) was that our Desi folks are trigger ready to pull someone down when it comes to me versus them. I hate to stereotype people - based on some unfounded and preconceived notions , but the more and more postings I see like this, it just reinforces my beliefs that we are still gullible enough to be divided no matter what the past had taught us.

    I enjoy visiting IV forums - because of all the Indian based forums - this was one place where people came together rallied for a cause - something that I could not find in any other place. Now I am seeing some folks postings that spites and pits one against another - without understanding the real issue.

    What or why does it matter if Murthy sending a letter to DHS or its Director is all about getting credit for her? Why do we have to think that its "us versus them" within our group - when we are all fighting for one single cause?

    Need some civility here - Please!

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  • vandanaverdia
    09-11 12:45 PM
    This aint my fight... This aint your fight..
    We need to come together & let our voices be heard!!!
    Come to DC...
    There is very little time & lots to achieve...

    There are miles to go before I sleep.....

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  • kumar1
    12-12 01:46 PM
    addsf345, you are attacking people. Grow up and quit doing that. Attack my views if you want to attack. No one has answered my question yet - If we are so "highly skilled", why no one is listening to us in this country. Kavita, I do not know about your field but in my field, IT, I see so many people, wanting to live in this country at any cost. They would work for any salary, they are OK to get relocated 6 times in a year, they would put up with any BS imposed by desi employers, but they would never go back. Now, I do not think they are "required" here. They are fighting to survive here. Again, nothing wrong in fighting to survive but to say that I am "required" here is a bit far from reality. If they (so called required population fighting for green card) leave tomorrow, nothing will change.

    America wants us as a temporary worker, with emphasis on the word temporary. America has no incentive to give us Green Cards. You work for 6 years, pay social security and Medicare and then pack up your bag and go back. Thank you very much, we appreciate your business. Don't you see it written on the wall? Especially those who are in EB3-I category? I can see it!

    Is country quota in EB category justified? Hell No. But you know what - if you remove that then entire EB system would be high jacked by Indians, just like they have high jacked H1-B and L-1 visa category. So much so that IMHO H1-B visa has lost its sole purpose. It was designed to give American companies the ability to hire talented people from other countries. It wasn't designed for Desi employers to hire desi consultants and then make those desi consultants run coast to coast looking for projects. Infosys and Satyam can open up shops on US soil and can call themselves American companies but you and I both know the fact, how American those companies are! So, being in EB3-I category, and after living here for almost 8 years on temporary visa, I can feel the pain, but in some part we are also responsible for this mess.

    Once again, only grown ups are requested to reply. Thank you.


    There are some ppl who will never wakeup, always think themselves as baggers. They do not know what they can achieve if they are united and if they have some willpower & brain. East-Indian-americans are not even 0.5% of the total US population and are among some of the highly successful ethnic groups.

    Banks got bailout as they made noise, so are the auto companies. We have many fools who are still in denials even after such a big injustice (unfair country quota for EB category), they just hide behind their false explanations & stupid theory and never even think that asking for or fighting against injustice. This is called escapism.


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  • h1techSlave
    12-10 10:39 PM
    The solution to all our visa backlog issues is:
    1. Stop marrying.......
    2. Dont have children ...or atleast not in your home country


    or marry American girl

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  • mallu
    02-17 01:03 AM
    .... African slaves in US didn't become free because they fought with their owners. They became free since President Lincoln decided that slavery had gone on a bit too long.

    A better example would have been the civil rights movement by Dr. King .


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  • abcdefgh
    01-17 08:17 AM

    Can we post link to this thread some where on every page so that who ever visits IV sees this thread right away? May be in different color or in some way so that it stands out. It looks like this thread is lost among all other threads.

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  • Jaime
    09-10 04:32 PM
    We love the U.S. We won't allow bad immigration policy to continue to hurt our country with a self-inflicted Reverse Brain Drain. Already 100,000 of us highly-skilled immigrants have left in frustration! We won't allow this to continue!!! We are going to stop this madness, AND IT ALL STARTS IN WASHINGTON ON THE 18th!!!! This is not only for ourselves, we are doing this for America!!!!!!!!!!!!


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  • StarSun
    02-18 11:04 AM
    Sukhwinder is coordinating the efforts on carpool and hosting options.
    Members who wish to carpool please post on the thread as well as send an email to Sukhwinder -

    Vinay is coordinating the efforts on airmiles, people wishing to donate air miles or request help for using the air miles, please PM vin13.

    Thank you.

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  • abhijitp
    03-16 02:24 PM
    Renewing the call to folks from North California to go attend the Advocacy Days (all 4 days). Others in North California may be able to help you with airfare, etc. (Check the yahoogroup for more details)

    Still looking for someone from North California to take advantage of this!


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    03-11 09:45 AM

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  • new_horizon
    10-21 12:03 AM
    reasoning with you. I can easily refute all your claims, and also prove my point. but I think it'll be a waste of my time. 'coz I am not trying to convert anybody to vote for the repubs. just can't help it, never heard anybody hiring a CEO just because he has experience organizing the company picnic :D . peace.


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  • Jaime
    09-28 05:44 PM
    Having worked for short periods of time in Germany and Netherlands, I would say that they very much make you feel that you are a foreigner, you can never fit in and are most unwelcome in the country. What irked me is the attitude that they will take your money gladly but don't want you there.
    In fact when I was looking for accomodation in Stuttgart the first thing the landlords asked me was "When are you going to leave?".
    The US may have it's faults, but I've never been asked that question by property owners, only by consulate officers.
    No thanks, I would rather move back to India than work as a third-class citizen in Europe. :mad:

    Somebody said our own Asian migrants are against us. I can see their viewpoint. We are perceived to pose a threat to the well-being of their children and they do have a sense of entitlement just because they happened to come here earlier. Can't change that attitude. We can also see that in some people who haven't yet got their green cards or are newly minted resident "aliens". E.g. Entitlement due to Master's degree from US, Consultants vs FTE, Desi company consultants vs American company consultants etc. Did we ever stop and think that the system does not even need to play "Divide and Conquer" in a house already divided?

    I frankly think that to an average joe in the US all of us are just another brown guy or chinaman etc. (apologies to the non Asian members of IV) and we don't need to feel that we are somehow superior to the other immigrant.

    Sorry that happened to you in Europe. About the U.S. Average Joe, I need to tell you my point of view. I've lived in the U.S. for more than half my life and I have come to know Americans. While many are the way you described, no two persons are alike, and there are many great people in this country who see us as individuals and love us for who we are. Stay away from the bad crowd and look for those good people. They are out there!

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  • vandanaverdia
    09-10 05:48 PM
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  • Canadian_Dream
    12-11 02:43 PM
    Since this has always been pushed through legilative means (S.1932), there might be a hurdle involved in using "Rulemaking" approach to this solution, nevertheless this idea should atleast be explored. Here is how rulemaking procedures work in Govt Agency: (Adding Flexibility is something that can be done through Rulemaking).

    Adding flexibility. More detailed regulations allow for more nuanced approaches to various conditions than a single legislative standard could. Moreover, regulations tend to be more easily changed as new data or technologies emerge.

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  • trueguy
    07-30 12:09 PM
    Add E&Y (Ernst and Young) to the list.


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  • CADude
    02-21 11:19 AM
    Your friends lawyer is stupid. I know many who are GC holder by converting. File new EB2 LCA and Port the EB3 date in I140 filing. Nothing wrong with it. My company (F 500) don't do it by some crap policy. I am still waiting since PD 2001 to see light. Why? Because EB2 India is always current but EB3 India PD is May 2001 or before from last 3 years. So if possible take advantage or I am living example. Waiting from 8+ years. Sorry for venting.. :)

    My co-worker tried that and now has 3 RFE's to respond to.
    Don't know the details but mostly it looks like a scam since why did one file Eb3 in first place and how can he add more exp. while Eb3 is pending as a factor for EB2? He is respondign since OCT. but they just keep asking for more details and they have first question for 140/PERM asking - DID YOU EVER HAD ANOTHER LABOR certification besides this one?
    Be very careful-

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  • damialok
    05-28 03:17 PM
    Finally after 6 years, its my turn to report. Online is NOT updated but when I called NSC they informed that it was approved on 05/23/2008. They also informed me that it will take 6 business days to get the card(card ordered on 05/23/2008).

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  • rajuram
    12-11 10:25 PM
    I got letters with receipt numbers for my wife and I.

    06-30 07:30 PM
    Way to Go !

    Let's get united (for the first time) and fight it tooth and nail.

    We should not let them get away with something like this so easily.

    To be honest with you all, last week when these rumors started, I thought once my case is filed, I don't care if they revise the bulletin or whatever. But after going through all this since yesterday, I don't want something like this to happen even to my enemies.

    Even if my case is accepted(current in June, hopefully lawyer mailed it Friday for monday delivery) I'll support you guys in this fight!

    So that it boosts up peoples who are similarly disappointed as i was last evening from 6 thru 9 PM ...

    July bulletin is still C and no one can stop us from Mailing/ Posting !!

    03-10 04:15 PM
    The Visa re-capture issue could be taken immediately after the FOIA issue.
    But I guess it would be all up to the IV team to decide the agenda of this organization.

    It would be nice to focus all our efforts and time on ONE issue only.
    When we start adding other proposals (which only gives us only temporary relief), the main message gets lost invariably.

    I think we could set-up a poll as below: (it would give us an idea about the support in this forums to achieve this target:)

    To ONLY Re-Capture Un-used visa numbers:
    I truthfully would pledge:
    i) $100 in 15 days
    ii) $200 in 15 days
    iii) $500 or more in 15 days.

    Any one donation NOT to be less than $100 PLEASE.
    I believe that the goal of Visa Re-capture is worth more than that even if you are making multiple donations.

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