perm2gc
12-20 06:21 PM
Does USCIS provide any clear documentation regarding the Visa Allocations?
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amsgc
07-25 11:44 PM
I like the way you think.
I hate to say it but this is starting to sound very much like an Alcoholics anonymous support group session. LOL.
Let me jump right in!
Get a grip guys. Life is not so bad. What you guys are worrying about is relatively trivial. The odds are heavily stacked in your favor for you to get the green card eventually, most likely within 2 yrs. I can't fathom another 2 plus years with no legislative relief. In the mean time as long as you stick to AC21 rules, you should have the courage to move jobs. Heck, with EAD, you could even move into something part time and try it out before finally deciding to commit etc. My point is you have tremendous flexibility, enjoy that.
In the small chance things do not work out, then you have presumably had an opportunity to save enough to purchase a decent home in India(or wherever your home country may be), a car and your line of work(I'm referring to the predominantly IT folks here) is in such international demand that you will be able to earn a livable wage anywhere, including India.
And here is the real shocker to many of you. There are millions of Americans(probably well over half) who will trade their position in life with you in a heart beat given the privilege, family and social support system, education, world view and demand you are in. Sometimes it is hard to see how blessed you actually are in this world. That is why I have taken a very grim view of people who have compared their issue to slavery etc. That only speaks to their unawareness of that practice.
Now I know none of this is going to get you your green card tomorrow and improve your mistreatment in this needlessly ridiculous and tortuous green card journey. However I am hoping it atleast gives you some perspective.
I hate to say it but this is starting to sound very much like an Alcoholics anonymous support group session. LOL.
Let me jump right in!
Get a grip guys. Life is not so bad. What you guys are worrying about is relatively trivial. The odds are heavily stacked in your favor for you to get the green card eventually, most likely within 2 yrs. I can't fathom another 2 plus years with no legislative relief. In the mean time as long as you stick to AC21 rules, you should have the courage to move jobs. Heck, with EAD, you could even move into something part time and try it out before finally deciding to commit etc. My point is you have tremendous flexibility, enjoy that.
In the small chance things do not work out, then you have presumably had an opportunity to save enough to purchase a decent home in India(or wherever your home country may be), a car and your line of work(I'm referring to the predominantly IT folks here) is in such international demand that you will be able to earn a livable wage anywhere, including India.
And here is the real shocker to many of you. There are millions of Americans(probably well over half) who will trade their position in life with you in a heart beat given the privilege, family and social support system, education, world view and demand you are in. Sometimes it is hard to see how blessed you actually are in this world. That is why I have taken a very grim view of people who have compared their issue to slavery etc. That only speaks to their unawareness of that practice.
Now I know none of this is going to get you your green card tomorrow and improve your mistreatment in this needlessly ridiculous and tortuous green card journey. However I am hoping it atleast gives you some perspective.
bidhanc
03-21 02:15 PM
I am in NYC. Shall we team up?
Yes, we should.
I am a little late on this "meet the lawyers" drive.
Do we have any more people around here from NY?
Bidhan
Yes, we should.
I am a little late on this "meet the lawyers" drive.
Do we have any more people around here from NY?
Bidhan
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quizzer
08-14 07:42 PM
I have a pending AOS (I-485) application
filed by my previous employer (company A). The I-140 is approved and is well
past 180 days. I moved from company A to company B in late April
2008. They did an H1 transfer and filed for AOS portability under
AC21. I did not like the role there, so had planned a move to Company C, my current employer - again H1 transfer and AC21 (yet to
be filed). Just before I moved, I got another offer from company D
(which I believe best fits my long term career interests). I would've
avoided the hop to company C had I not given the notice to leave at
Company B. Now, I am looking to move to company D at the earliest (perhaps in a month). I have
been at company C for 4 weeks now.
Question:
Should company C file an AC21? Since there is already an AC21 on file (by
company B) and if I will move to company D, can I reduce one additional AC21
filing? This is just so that there aren't 3 Ac21s filed and to avoid
making me look frivolous. Please advice. If its safer to file it, I
can request an AC21 filing soon from company C.
I'm not sure about your question. I want to congratulate you on getting multiple offers in this economy.
Just curious to know your skill set and location?
All the best!!!
filed by my previous employer (company A). The I-140 is approved and is well
past 180 days. I moved from company A to company B in late April
2008. They did an H1 transfer and filed for AOS portability under
AC21. I did not like the role there, so had planned a move to Company C, my current employer - again H1 transfer and AC21 (yet to
be filed). Just before I moved, I got another offer from company D
(which I believe best fits my long term career interests). I would've
avoided the hop to company C had I not given the notice to leave at
Company B. Now, I am looking to move to company D at the earliest (perhaps in a month). I have
been at company C for 4 weeks now.
Question:
Should company C file an AC21? Since there is already an AC21 on file (by
company B) and if I will move to company D, can I reduce one additional AC21
filing? This is just so that there aren't 3 Ac21s filed and to avoid
making me look frivolous. Please advice. If its safer to file it, I
can request an AC21 filing soon from company C.
I'm not sure about your question. I want to congratulate you on getting multiple offers in this economy.
Just curious to know your skill set and location?
All the best!!!
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Life2Live
07-07 06:46 PM
Hi can someone provide link plz
BharatPremi
11-07 02:00 PM
I received my AP on Nov 3 and looking at the AP doc it had an approval date of Oct 10 whereas I had "Document mailed to applicant" message on Oct 31.
I am not sure what happened between Oct 10 and Oct 31st.
I am sure nothing happened between that period to your papers except eating dust in USCIS mailroom.
I am not sure what happened between Oct 10 and Oct 31st.
I am sure nothing happened between that period to your papers except eating dust in USCIS mailroom.
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sanbaj
03-26 10:25 AM
Hello BharatPremi,
I was in the Interfiling situation for the last four months but EB2 India was Retrogressed and then Unavailable as you know. But, I got the advice from my Lawyer that I should Interfile and not wait for the EB2 India dates to get current. So, at the end of Feb '08 I decided to Interfile with my lawyer's help.
With the cover letter as suggested in various earlier posts he made sure he sent the Original Approval Notice of the I140 and not a copy.
The main text of the letter was:
In accordance with 8 C.F.R. �204.5(e) , the applicant hereby request your office to amend the priority date to that of <new I140 Priority Date> as indicated on the enclosed original approved I-140 petition on behalf of the applicant.
In the footnotes, this was included:
1. A petition approved on behalf of an alien under sections 203(b) (1), (2), or (3) of the Act accords the alien the priority date of the approved petition for any subsequently filed petition for any classification under sections 203(b) (1), (2), or (3) of the Act for which the alien may qualify. In the event that the alien is the beneficiary of multiple petitions under sections 203(b) (1), (2), or (3) of the Act, the alien shall be entitled to the earliest priority date.
It was beginning of March when this was done. Then in mid-March, I got the great news that EB2 India is current for my PD. We will see what happens in April '08 !!!
No news from USCIS yet on the Interfiling app. My lawyer suggested to call after a month of the application's RD.
Waiting on GC for more than 6 years. I hope this is the last thing to do before AOS is approved for us and we receive the PR Card.
Hope this info helps.
Best of Luck for your case.
I was in the Interfiling situation for the last four months but EB2 India was Retrogressed and then Unavailable as you know. But, I got the advice from my Lawyer that I should Interfile and not wait for the EB2 India dates to get current. So, at the end of Feb '08 I decided to Interfile with my lawyer's help.
With the cover letter as suggested in various earlier posts he made sure he sent the Original Approval Notice of the I140 and not a copy.
The main text of the letter was:
In accordance with 8 C.F.R. �204.5(e) , the applicant hereby request your office to amend the priority date to that of <new I140 Priority Date> as indicated on the enclosed original approved I-140 petition on behalf of the applicant.
In the footnotes, this was included:
1. A petition approved on behalf of an alien under sections 203(b) (1), (2), or (3) of the Act accords the alien the priority date of the approved petition for any subsequently filed petition for any classification under sections 203(b) (1), (2), or (3) of the Act for which the alien may qualify. In the event that the alien is the beneficiary of multiple petitions under sections 203(b) (1), (2), or (3) of the Act, the alien shall be entitled to the earliest priority date.
It was beginning of March when this was done. Then in mid-March, I got the great news that EB2 India is current for my PD. We will see what happens in April '08 !!!
No news from USCIS yet on the Interfiling app. My lawyer suggested to call after a month of the application's RD.
Waiting on GC for more than 6 years. I hope this is the last thing to do before AOS is approved for us and we receive the PR Card.
Hope this info helps.
Best of Luck for your case.
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willwin
06-05 02:43 PM
Not even CIS, only DOS can make a meaningfule prediction. Last year, CIS had no idea that DOS would make all categories current in the July bulletin. If CIS had any control over that, it would have never happened.
If I remember correctly last year, some 14000 visas were given to India EB3. EB3 includes categories like Nurses, etc. We cannot expect them to login to and keep their status up to date. hence, numbers prove nothing.
For that matter not even DOS. Looks like the date movement back and forth is only a 'best-guess' game.
If I remember correctly last year, some 14000 visas were given to India EB3. EB3 includes categories like Nurses, etc. We cannot expect them to login to and keep their status up to date. hence, numbers prove nothing.
For that matter not even DOS. Looks like the date movement back and forth is only a 'best-guess' game.
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sanbaj
03-27 11:56 AM
Hello Sanbaj, where did you send your interfiling request ? I mean which center ? I am also in same situation but I did not send the original I-140 approval copy.
NSC. I got the RNs from there.
NSC. I got the RNs from there.
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chanduv23
03-11 05:25 PM
You're right, the point I was making is the real intention of these Senators...When you want to scr.ew somebody you ask questions that are hard and mostly unanswerable....Take this example, Look at the requirement that Hyderabad Consulate has put up for H1B Visa Stamping, it sounds like they are saying don't you dare!!!
Such an escalated tone has been established due to various reasons, based on the fact that there is documented evidence of some abuse. It is not to scare every h1b visa holder.
See - people are writing so many posts their their friend is having trouble in h1b , friends friend is having trouble in POE etc... but none of them are original posts. Just look around yourself and your friends - check to see if anyone really got screwed (genuine folks) - there may be some people who got additional grilling and that's it.
People are still traveling everyday and getting stamping and no issues at POE.
Like I said earlier "unless you set the ass on fire those who abuse will not straighten themselves" - greed overtakes any good forward thought.
Senators are not your own country senators and we cannot influence their thoughts or feel bad about what they think about h1b visa. All we do is make a case for ourselves that we are genuine and really interested in following the system.
AFAIK every h1b and GC case has been dealt with on a case to case basis and people who have really followed rules did not have much issues - we continue to follow the system because we believe in it.
Such an escalated tone has been established due to various reasons, based on the fact that there is documented evidence of some abuse. It is not to scare every h1b visa holder.
See - people are writing so many posts their their friend is having trouble in h1b , friends friend is having trouble in POE etc... but none of them are original posts. Just look around yourself and your friends - check to see if anyone really got screwed (genuine folks) - there may be some people who got additional grilling and that's it.
People are still traveling everyday and getting stamping and no issues at POE.
Like I said earlier "unless you set the ass on fire those who abuse will not straighten themselves" - greed overtakes any good forward thought.
Senators are not your own country senators and we cannot influence their thoughts or feel bad about what they think about h1b visa. All we do is make a case for ourselves that we are genuine and really interested in following the system.
AFAIK every h1b and GC case has been dealt with on a case to case basis and people who have really followed rules did not have much issues - we continue to follow the system because we believe in it.
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n2b
12-28 11:05 AM
Employer can withdraw I-140 even after 180 days. If possible, avoid that scenario. It will cause RFE or, worse, NOID. But ultimately you'll prevail.
how do I avoid that scenario?
If I send some information to USCIS that I am invoking AC 21, they would not allow my employer to revoke I 140?
how do I avoid that scenario?
If I send some information to USCIS that I am invoking AC 21, they would not allow my employer to revoke I 140?
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08-08 09:59 PM
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eb3retro
11-09 04:20 PM
guys, in my case the congressman intervention helped a lot. you can request them to get in touch with uscis even after 40 days of application (just like in my case) and once they did, i got approval email within 48 hours and AP copies in 4 days in the mail. Hope this helps.
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sanju
10-21 04:30 PM
Here is one more complaining about red dots.... gosh.
Hey bozzo,
More than anything else, it all depends on your perspective. You simply want to focus on the things that appear to be wrong to you, like mere focus on the -ve comments. You did not list any +ve comments. Maybe you did not see them. Now you can continue to harp and complain about the -ve around you, or you can have a +ve approach and look at things that are good, maybe the comments there are commending and admiring you. Its your choice. Instead of asking others to change something, did you look at the mirror when you got up in the morning. Maybe a change is required in that guy you saw in the mirror.
Stop complaining that the boys are picking on you. Behave like a grown up and don't act as if you are melting because of crticism or -ve comments.
Hope this is the last complain about red/green dots.
.
Hey bozzo,
More than anything else, it all depends on your perspective. You simply want to focus on the things that appear to be wrong to you, like mere focus on the -ve comments. You did not list any +ve comments. Maybe you did not see them. Now you can continue to harp and complain about the -ve around you, or you can have a +ve approach and look at things that are good, maybe the comments there are commending and admiring you. Its your choice. Instead of asking others to change something, did you look at the mirror when you got up in the morning. Maybe a change is required in that guy you saw in the mirror.
Stop complaining that the boys are picking on you. Behave like a grown up and don't act as if you are melting because of crticism or -ve comments.
Hope this is the last complain about red/green dots.
.
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GCwaitforever
11-16 02:53 PM
This is relevant because some of us have EAD which is legal authorization to work (restricted though) or spouses have EADs (unrestricted). Placing barriers like US citizens only or Greencard holders only is discriminatory.
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07-06 02:53 PM
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aachoo
02-20 07:00 PM
Employment letter with salary, did your status change?
nope. I am still waiting for the RFE.
nope. I am still waiting for the RFE.
madhu345
08-14 08:17 AM
This is called OBSSESSIVE COMPULSIVE DISORDER
He he.....already we all have OBSSESSIVE COMPULSIVE DISORDER by coming here.
He he.....already we all have OBSSESSIVE COMPULSIVE DISORDER by coming here.
ronhira
07-21 10:27 PM
this guy doggystyle piss me off, i had other things to do and was not going to attend, but he made sure that i attend and expose incompetency of these impotent people. bottom line - donna wants to be the one to testify to the congress, she wants to be famous. others are idiots and can't see this. here is what happened - total waste of time. doddy is right, could not hear more than 5 distinct voices, they use different ids to make it appear that the whole world is anti immigrant, they even said that on the call, bunch of losers
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donna – put in talking points for each article.
kevin – don’t want to look artificial
donna – yes, no copying pasting,
don’t want to put ourself apart from other american in it . the good thing is republicans are on the message and this is what democrats don’t know how to do. democrats are very articulate, but do not stay on the message
core point of the talking points, want to attack h1b only, that’s the core – we are fighting to apply in jobs in our own country
remember, the business week will post link to these h1b only wanted ads
you will not see an american who’ll be happy to see these ads
goto Bright Future Jobs (http://www.brghtfuurejob.com)
durbin bill will not do enough, will only prevent these h1s to come here. but after durbin bill pass, anyone can send this job. in order to apply for a job in nj one has to through pune, india. they ask new h1b to sign bond contract, and if they leave before 18 months, they will ask to pay the fee. this is bond contract which is illegal in america since long time.
kevin – ha ha ha indentured servants
donna – exactly, ha ha, and durbin will prevent this bond contract, if u click on h1b wanted ads
#7 ads says no degree required
#8 ads this is a govt. contract and the company is minority owned - the reason we attack minority owned or woman owned company is, it’s difficult to get this status and they are violating the spirit in which they got the minority status. there is a large number of unemployed h1b, the corporation made a solemn commitment to the us americans, government and to the foreign nationals – the corporations made the commitment to pay the individual and if they let them go or fire, they fly them home. what is going on is aila is recommending to companies that they essentially intimidate h1b when they let them go, making them sign a letter that they refuse to take ticket to fly back home. this is very very important for us to know and attack
one thing that most people don’t know - the indentured comes from the bond contract – the guest workers, h1b, will be never be deported, because, under the law, theoretically, they r never suppose to become illegal. the only people who r deportable r illegals.
some lady voice – this is not a civil and not a criminal offense
donna – no, because it’s the fault of the cos, bcoz the company did not fly them home. and this is one issue that doesn’t get represented in the media. h1b – that doesn’t have job, most important thing to post is – attack that u don’t have job and can’t apply for job
the exploitation which bw is writing about can only occur when these companies can bypass us – the solution to this lies – when companies are forced to hire her
another stupid woman – yes, the it was invented here
kevin – yes, for green card, lawyers find ways around the process
donna – corporation is finding work around to hire american worker,
door bell rings… that stupid woman answering door and cause disturbance for 5 minutes, opening door, dog barking, bragging to the mail man about being on a big “conference call”….
donna - the unifying thing is – corporations are ignoring us to find legal ways to ignore us.
stupid woman - how to answer them on the forums
kevin – just basically reply, and reply, and we have overwhelming numbers on our side
when u see their comments, they have high volume for 1 or 2 days, and then they r gone. we continue to post comments sometimes use different ids and make it look like we are many of us.
donna – we r not going to win the posting game, we don’t want to win the posting game
we are positing similar information, and this alerts the journalist and we have to filter our messages, say we have 20 votes about the bypass of the talent, 20 points about the employment discrimination, we will alert discrimination whom we will refer to these articles,
nyt – article got 1000 posts, and passed to other online journals,
as soon as i started, 1 generalist quoted me and then got quoted more
so the journalist who wrote the article, and those who comes afterwards, they read the post, that is important. we want generalist to read our comments, that we cannot apply for the job, and there is employment discrimination
kevin – you can also send reporters direct emails, i emailed moira of bw - direct emails, and that’s how we got bw article
donna – remember we have a track. after labor day, this is going to be up for discussion, btw, don’t even replicate u’r opponents phrases or never repeat u’r opposition is saying about yourself, so don’t say that there is no qualified americans, say we have over abundance of skill talent, in other words over supply, never say shortage, because u’ll otherwise saying opposition’s message about you. doesn’t anybody… do we want to have a discussion on that.
kevin – we do not have to be dignified in our response
donna - there is not a human on this planet who will believe that there are “want” ads that say –americans need not apply – that will create outrage.
buddy – can i ask a question, i click on an add, it goes to indeed, so this is pulled from rss feed
buddy – so i have many friends on facebook, i can tell them about these ads.
donna – exactly, so the jobs r there but we cannot apply for those jobs. we have doj is making a ground breaking case between ‘employment right and it
silly woman – i’ve been it manager, and know many american who
btw – u’r emotional truth will move people. these people have over qualified beyond the job we are positing, and they do not get hired, and that’s the pattern. years ago, we barely know the material, and we learned on the job, and now it’s the other way around, we know it and we are over qualified
another stupid guy - they fake resumes, and they say on the resumes that they know about oracle rake and unix admin, but they don’t know anything
donna - we are laying the groundwork about the washington beltway mentality, if have to make it look like that employer deliberately pst ads
everyone here on the call has historical record, honest to god. i have a good news, we r standing up for ourself, to tell this story of bypassing the american talent, and that’s what brighfuture jobs is about. that’s what durbin bill will do for us. there are couple of people who will focus on foreign citizens. two things (1.) they will hear from us, and (2.) whether we need guest workers at all, will be taken by afl-cio will pick up. but what we will do, we have absolute unique role to play, we will explain how the culture the bypass impacts us, and the culture of exploitation impacts us. we r the only once in the country who can tell this. there is going to be a discussion in beltway about “whether”, but american worker and american it professionals
no one said that - no foreign worker can come here – that’s not the message – it’s the bypass and exploitation.
donna - no there will be a discussion about no foreign work can come
don’t ever say – h1b is when a qualified american worker can not be found. we have to say that h1b law is about the bypass the american worker – the “discussion” will be about commission – anybody heard about that. the unions are setting commission whether or not we need guest workers – theoretically, and we will come up with the stories, boots on the gound, to show them the data the fuel, makes sense? they can have their tea and whatever stuff, and we will bring the bonfire.
kevin – that nyt story about that google supposedly employee, we have to post messages there,
we have to say that – there will not be an american and naturalized citizen, who say -that its ok to exploitation. there is deep deep discussion about who is an american. alf_cio has broken the opposition, but they r talking theoretically, and we r giving boots on the ground –
employers r not giving us the opportunity to compete – it’s the responsibility of federal govt that we are able to compete.
buddy – most of these jobs are it. someone in background in it can pick up even if there is new technology, but we r shut out by people with lower skills
donna -you r wrong, u r not shut down by people with lower skills, but by corporations
buddy – say 4 h1b workers replacing 1 american workers, they network, and team up to help each other
donna - no, u can argue the cheap, that’s ok, but u cannot argue about losing the right to compete. americans love cheap labor, but we have to focus on americans not being able to compete, its not about low wages.
mike – if u’r real american u cannot work for the 3rd world rates
donna – if u’r real american, u’ll make that corporation compete for these jobs locally. if u want americans, u want to create competition amongst americans here.
when a blackman would work for 10 cents, and white man work for $10, they would choose whiteman, they choose whiteman – because they were
so if u want to argue about wages, that’s cool, u r telling people u’r competing for the job. but the focus has to be on the right to compete.
this guy rajiv was replaced by h1b when he was on h1b. ha ha ha (everyone laughs)
find an american who don’t think its ok to find the people to right to compete. we have not said this to the lawmakers. the moment we tell this to the lawmakers, they will be 100% on our side
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donna – put in talking points for each article.
kevin – don’t want to look artificial
donna – yes, no copying pasting,
don’t want to put ourself apart from other american in it . the good thing is republicans are on the message and this is what democrats don’t know how to do. democrats are very articulate, but do not stay on the message
core point of the talking points, want to attack h1b only, that’s the core – we are fighting to apply in jobs in our own country
remember, the business week will post link to these h1b only wanted ads
you will not see an american who’ll be happy to see these ads
goto Bright Future Jobs (http://www.brghtfuurejob.com)
durbin bill will not do enough, will only prevent these h1s to come here. but after durbin bill pass, anyone can send this job. in order to apply for a job in nj one has to through pune, india. they ask new h1b to sign bond contract, and if they leave before 18 months, they will ask to pay the fee. this is bond contract which is illegal in america since long time.
kevin – ha ha ha indentured servants
donna – exactly, ha ha, and durbin will prevent this bond contract, if u click on h1b wanted ads
#7 ads says no degree required
#8 ads this is a govt. contract and the company is minority owned - the reason we attack minority owned or woman owned company is, it’s difficult to get this status and they are violating the spirit in which they got the minority status. there is a large number of unemployed h1b, the corporation made a solemn commitment to the us americans, government and to the foreign nationals – the corporations made the commitment to pay the individual and if they let them go or fire, they fly them home. what is going on is aila is recommending to companies that they essentially intimidate h1b when they let them go, making them sign a letter that they refuse to take ticket to fly back home. this is very very important for us to know and attack
one thing that most people don’t know - the indentured comes from the bond contract – the guest workers, h1b, will be never be deported, because, under the law, theoretically, they r never suppose to become illegal. the only people who r deportable r illegals.
some lady voice – this is not a civil and not a criminal offense
donna – no, because it’s the fault of the cos, bcoz the company did not fly them home. and this is one issue that doesn’t get represented in the media. h1b – that doesn’t have job, most important thing to post is – attack that u don’t have job and can’t apply for job
the exploitation which bw is writing about can only occur when these companies can bypass us – the solution to this lies – when companies are forced to hire her
another stupid woman – yes, the it was invented here
kevin – yes, for green card, lawyers find ways around the process
donna – corporation is finding work around to hire american worker,
door bell rings… that stupid woman answering door and cause disturbance for 5 minutes, opening door, dog barking, bragging to the mail man about being on a big “conference call”….
donna - the unifying thing is – corporations are ignoring us to find legal ways to ignore us.
stupid woman - how to answer them on the forums
kevin – just basically reply, and reply, and we have overwhelming numbers on our side
when u see their comments, they have high volume for 1 or 2 days, and then they r gone. we continue to post comments sometimes use different ids and make it look like we are many of us.
donna – we r not going to win the posting game, we don’t want to win the posting game
we are positing similar information, and this alerts the journalist and we have to filter our messages, say we have 20 votes about the bypass of the talent, 20 points about the employment discrimination, we will alert discrimination whom we will refer to these articles,
nyt – article got 1000 posts, and passed to other online journals,
as soon as i started, 1 generalist quoted me and then got quoted more
so the journalist who wrote the article, and those who comes afterwards, they read the post, that is important. we want generalist to read our comments, that we cannot apply for the job, and there is employment discrimination
kevin – you can also send reporters direct emails, i emailed moira of bw - direct emails, and that’s how we got bw article
donna – remember we have a track. after labor day, this is going to be up for discussion, btw, don’t even replicate u’r opponents phrases or never repeat u’r opposition is saying about yourself, so don’t say that there is no qualified americans, say we have over abundance of skill talent, in other words over supply, never say shortage, because u’ll otherwise saying opposition’s message about you. doesn’t anybody… do we want to have a discussion on that.
kevin – we do not have to be dignified in our response
donna - there is not a human on this planet who will believe that there are “want” ads that say –americans need not apply – that will create outrage.
buddy – can i ask a question, i click on an add, it goes to indeed, so this is pulled from rss feed
buddy – so i have many friends on facebook, i can tell them about these ads.
donna – exactly, so the jobs r there but we cannot apply for those jobs. we have doj is making a ground breaking case between ‘employment right and it
silly woman – i’ve been it manager, and know many american who
btw – u’r emotional truth will move people. these people have over qualified beyond the job we are positing, and they do not get hired, and that’s the pattern. years ago, we barely know the material, and we learned on the job, and now it’s the other way around, we know it and we are over qualified
another stupid guy - they fake resumes, and they say on the resumes that they know about oracle rake and unix admin, but they don’t know anything
donna - we are laying the groundwork about the washington beltway mentality, if have to make it look like that employer deliberately pst ads
everyone here on the call has historical record, honest to god. i have a good news, we r standing up for ourself, to tell this story of bypassing the american talent, and that’s what brighfuture jobs is about. that’s what durbin bill will do for us. there are couple of people who will focus on foreign citizens. two things (1.) they will hear from us, and (2.) whether we need guest workers at all, will be taken by afl-cio will pick up. but what we will do, we have absolute unique role to play, we will explain how the culture the bypass impacts us, and the culture of exploitation impacts us. we r the only once in the country who can tell this. there is going to be a discussion in beltway about “whether”, but american worker and american it professionals
no one said that - no foreign worker can come here – that’s not the message – it’s the bypass and exploitation.
donna - no there will be a discussion about no foreign work can come
don’t ever say – h1b is when a qualified american worker can not be found. we have to say that h1b law is about the bypass the american worker – the “discussion” will be about commission – anybody heard about that. the unions are setting commission whether or not we need guest workers – theoretically, and we will come up with the stories, boots on the gound, to show them the data the fuel, makes sense? they can have their tea and whatever stuff, and we will bring the bonfire.
kevin – that nyt story about that google supposedly employee, we have to post messages there,
we have to say that – there will not be an american and naturalized citizen, who say -that its ok to exploitation. there is deep deep discussion about who is an american. alf_cio has broken the opposition, but they r talking theoretically, and we r giving boots on the ground –
employers r not giving us the opportunity to compete – it’s the responsibility of federal govt that we are able to compete.
buddy – most of these jobs are it. someone in background in it can pick up even if there is new technology, but we r shut out by people with lower skills
donna -you r wrong, u r not shut down by people with lower skills, but by corporations
buddy – say 4 h1b workers replacing 1 american workers, they network, and team up to help each other
donna - no, u can argue the cheap, that’s ok, but u cannot argue about losing the right to compete. americans love cheap labor, but we have to focus on americans not being able to compete, its not about low wages.
mike – if u’r real american u cannot work for the 3rd world rates
donna – if u’r real american, u’ll make that corporation compete for these jobs locally. if u want americans, u want to create competition amongst americans here.
when a blackman would work for 10 cents, and white man work for $10, they would choose whiteman, they choose whiteman – because they were
so if u want to argue about wages, that’s cool, u r telling people u’r competing for the job. but the focus has to be on the right to compete.
this guy rajiv was replaced by h1b when he was on h1b. ha ha ha (everyone laughs)
find an american who don’t think its ok to find the people to right to compete. we have not said this to the lawmakers. the moment we tell this to the lawmakers, they will be 100% on our side
