natrajs
09-02 11:01 AM
It is not true that Many people have to wait 10+ years to get gc. May be some people might wait for 10 years because of frequent change of jobs , layoffs and also ignorance of green card processing. Most of the time EB2 waiting time is 2 to 3 years. Indian EB3 is in worst situation but only for past 2 years and before that everything was current. For that also most waiting persons filed I 485 because of July VB issue. In my opinion EB3 PD will be backdated up to 5 years.
Also there is no legistrative activity in Congress about any immigration issue. Always skil bill comes in limelight when congress is in Session. But everyone knows that skil bill is asking too much in H1b and immigration numbers because of exemptions and it will be very difficult task. But no one in pro immigrant community is ready to compromise on numbers. When Congress tries to curb the abuse of H1b even pro immigrants are opposing the bills without any suggestion of any alternatives. If some bill comes for only GC that too moderate increase in numbers that will have bright chance of passing in congress.
You should not expect any rally will produce meaningful reform. It has to be proved that additional immigrant and H1b numbers will produce more jobs and it should not create unemployment in americans.Just sufferings of gc waiters is not enough. My opinion is Rally will be used to show strength of IV and may educate public and Congress. But anti immigrants also doing Similar Campaign(not big rallies) by negative points of immigration. The same congress till the end of 2008 and I doubt they will consider any immigration issue till new congress comes in 2009 that is not too far from now. But it is always good to try all the time.
Before any reform comes most IV members may get GC.
Dear Friend
It�s not about GC for the IV's member or for the core Team, It�s a momentum and we want to keep it going and fight for it
Many people has switched the job because of many factors they have faced during their employment and are forced to start all over again to get the GC, It is not ignorance on their part, it is manly because of the broken GC process.
Whether we can able to make the Congress and Senate work on CIR during this fall or on 2009 is irrelevant.
But we can make huge impact on their mind that they have to address this issue, they can not simply ignore us
Just think about that if our fore fathers (freedom fighters of any country) thought about immediate results then they wouldn�t fight for it and get the independence.
In an old say that a person who plant a tree will not get the fruit of it and but he/she did it for the future generations.
So please participate and get this momentum going
Also there is no legistrative activity in Congress about any immigration issue. Always skil bill comes in limelight when congress is in Session. But everyone knows that skil bill is asking too much in H1b and immigration numbers because of exemptions and it will be very difficult task. But no one in pro immigrant community is ready to compromise on numbers. When Congress tries to curb the abuse of H1b even pro immigrants are opposing the bills without any suggestion of any alternatives. If some bill comes for only GC that too moderate increase in numbers that will have bright chance of passing in congress.
You should not expect any rally will produce meaningful reform. It has to be proved that additional immigrant and H1b numbers will produce more jobs and it should not create unemployment in americans.Just sufferings of gc waiters is not enough. My opinion is Rally will be used to show strength of IV and may educate public and Congress. But anti immigrants also doing Similar Campaign(not big rallies) by negative points of immigration. The same congress till the end of 2008 and I doubt they will consider any immigration issue till new congress comes in 2009 that is not too far from now. But it is always good to try all the time.
Before any reform comes most IV members may get GC.
Dear Friend
It�s not about GC for the IV's member or for the core Team, It�s a momentum and we want to keep it going and fight for it
Many people has switched the job because of many factors they have faced during their employment and are forced to start all over again to get the GC, It is not ignorance on their part, it is manly because of the broken GC process.
Whether we can able to make the Congress and Senate work on CIR during this fall or on 2009 is irrelevant.
But we can make huge impact on their mind that they have to address this issue, they can not simply ignore us
Just think about that if our fore fathers (freedom fighters of any country) thought about immediate results then they wouldn�t fight for it and get the independence.
In an old say that a person who plant a tree will not get the fruit of it and but he/she did it for the future generations.
So please participate and get this momentum going
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makemygc
07-06 09:58 PM
BBBBRrrrrrrrr another idiot
1) My screen name has nothing to do with the argument here. If we discuss my screen name we are going on a tangent which is very typical of desis (I rememeber womanly taunts in movies and woman gossip where they would pick anything but would niether make a point nor a valid argument)
so you can see where your argument is going..
2) Hopefull signifies optimism. A pessimist is an optimist who is very analytical or knows better. Your argument is similar to "And they lived happily ever after ...(after singing around green trees) ...." ignoring the ground reality, facts that no dent has been made and also turninga blind eye to the fact that there are people since 2001/2002 stuck. Its 2007 meaning five years and if the Dept is not willing to budge after all these efforts to a number more than 7000, and you still are HOPEFULL ignoring the facts means that you are an idiot. Yes you will get your GC before you die for sure provided you live upto the age of appx 70 and your consulting firm is around and you are not tired of the bickering with your employer.
Its just like a Yash Chora SRK movie ...it only happens in reel life and not real life ..
3) as far as the FT job goes we both knwo it deep within what it means...i hope you are smart enough to get the point and wont make me word it to emabrass you further..
4) if you would be intelligent enough to shed some light on how kindness and make you get your GC in thsi scenario ...
just a piece of advise ..STOP BEING DUMB
Guys.. plz stop responding to him. He is just one frustrated soul. Hope he finds happiness around him and distribute the same to the people around him.
1) My screen name has nothing to do with the argument here. If we discuss my screen name we are going on a tangent which is very typical of desis (I rememeber womanly taunts in movies and woman gossip where they would pick anything but would niether make a point nor a valid argument)
so you can see where your argument is going..
2) Hopefull signifies optimism. A pessimist is an optimist who is very analytical or knows better. Your argument is similar to "And they lived happily ever after ...(after singing around green trees) ...." ignoring the ground reality, facts that no dent has been made and also turninga blind eye to the fact that there are people since 2001/2002 stuck. Its 2007 meaning five years and if the Dept is not willing to budge after all these efforts to a number more than 7000, and you still are HOPEFULL ignoring the facts means that you are an idiot. Yes you will get your GC before you die for sure provided you live upto the age of appx 70 and your consulting firm is around and you are not tired of the bickering with your employer.
Its just like a Yash Chora SRK movie ...it only happens in reel life and not real life ..
3) as far as the FT job goes we both knwo it deep within what it means...i hope you are smart enough to get the point and wont make me word it to emabrass you further..
4) if you would be intelligent enough to shed some light on how kindness and make you get your GC in thsi scenario ...
just a piece of advise ..STOP BEING DUMB
Guys.. plz stop responding to him. He is just one frustrated soul. Hope he finds happiness around him and distribute the same to the people around him.
knacath
10-19 02:57 PM
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abhijitp
09-23 02:52 AM
IV hadle of Dr Saurabh is 'drsaurabhsethi'. abhijitp, you guys rocked the stage with my favourite music. I want congratulate everyone in CA chpater for their enthusiasm and grand participation in the rally. You guys did it, what we couldn't do being local to DC. We learned a lot from CA chpater memebers from their dedication and hard work. Keep it up. Hats off to all CA members.
I want to add that it was only because of the superb guitaring by Dr Saurabh that we could do the song in the right (soul) rhythm. In my own youtube video I had played a much simpler 4 count rhythm as otherwise it was getting kind of hard to focus on the lyrics.
Also, I don't know how others from North CA feel but Aman's motivating speech during his visit to CA (the Milpitas event) was the turning point for me! Maybe before the next rally, Aman should consider visiting all 50 states:)
I want to add that it was only because of the superb guitaring by Dr Saurabh that we could do the song in the right (soul) rhythm. In my own youtube video I had played a much simpler 4 count rhythm as otherwise it was getting kind of hard to focus on the lyrics.
Also, I don't know how others from North CA feel but Aman's motivating speech during his visit to CA (the Milpitas event) was the turning point for me! Maybe before the next rally, Aman should consider visiting all 50 states:)
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perm2gc
11-30 06:14 PM
That is not true at all. Discover was the FIRST to isssue me a Credit card as a student and to this date no problems.
until 2002 they issued.after that they stopped..
until 2002 they issued.after that they stopped..
gc_kaavaali
06-05 11:50 AM
New memo is not helping us in terms of answering few questions. Can i comeback on H1B (without subject to cap limit) after changing job using EAD?
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fun
01-04 08:52 PM
A guy came to USA and brought his wife along.... his friend says... why do U have to bring something which is available here.... and here is a Guy with with two wives...:D:D;);):o
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Devils_Advocate
07-22 12:05 AM
I have been following "Doggys" stuff and anti-anti blog for a while and know that he's not an anti for sure, and before anyone gets paranoid and accuses me of being "doggy" no sire i am not:p
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paskal
08-31 05:09 PM
why can't we count now?? just approx. is also fine, can we have some sort of poll??
go check the tri state poll, see if it's crossed 50 responses out of 3,500 + members. to have a poll and make it meaningful you need willing participants. that means many people need to spend a whole 30 secs not thinking about receipts. everyone worries about them- i'm talking here about the significant number that obsess about them. do note that the July 2 thread dies after work hours. so most people who refresh all day do it only at work.
nah! we can't have a poll. it would be a meaningless exercise. my guess is that we will only get people to understand what the problems really are when another knock like July 2 comes along. and that is just too sad....
go check the tri state poll, see if it's crossed 50 responses out of 3,500 + members. to have a poll and make it meaningful you need willing participants. that means many people need to spend a whole 30 secs not thinking about receipts. everyone worries about them- i'm talking here about the significant number that obsess about them. do note that the July 2 thread dies after work hours. so most people who refresh all day do it only at work.
nah! we can't have a poll. it would be a meaningless exercise. my guess is that we will only get people to understand what the problems really are when another knock like July 2 comes along. and that is just too sad....
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aspiration
07-08 12:23 PM
I am not getting...
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gsc999
05-22 03:51 PM
Lol, Agree with this. We need to include this amendment in the agenda :D
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We have been model "future citizens" by paying all our taxes, abiding by civic laws and meticulously making sure that we never get out of our precarious H-1 B visa status. This is how we are rewarded. This isn't a "grand bargain" it is not even an "amnesty" as many anti-immigrants are labeling it, this is worse, it is a "travesty." Bravo US Senate, you just proved that playing by the rules is such an unAmerican trait. We learn that from your grand bargain. Better late than never. We know now what to do.
On a different note. We could request these senators to introduce an amendment that will create a new category of visa called "H-2-Z" visa for people who give up on getting a green card based on employment based system but may find it easier to refile under Z visa category by becoming illegals.
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We have been model "future citizens" by paying all our taxes, abiding by civic laws and meticulously making sure that we never get out of our precarious H-1 B visa status. This is how we are rewarded. This isn't a "grand bargain" it is not even an "amnesty" as many anti-immigrants are labeling it, this is worse, it is a "travesty." Bravo US Senate, you just proved that playing by the rules is such an unAmerican trait. We learn that from your grand bargain. Better late than never. We know now what to do.
On a different note. We could request these senators to introduce an amendment that will create a new category of visa called "H-2-Z" visa for people who give up on getting a green card based on employment based system but may find it easier to refile under Z visa category by becoming illegals.
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NNReddy
09-19 03:02 PM
IS it going to be transferred back from CSC to TSC or NSC again? is that happening.
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paskal
08-24 01:33 AM
I agree that "It is an irony that most people here who raised valid concerns have "red" reputation". I don't know how it works. I know it doesn't matter but I just added +ve reputaton for ck_b2001 and Lisap.
Anyways, I think the moderators should not forget that this is an open forum also.
2. IV is a very good cause, but all of us (affiliates to moderators) and moderators should try to explain this in any way they want but please NOT BE PUSHY, AND ABUSIVE.
3. In this way, who so ever wants more participation, let him/her come forward. But at the same time, if anybody is not convinced or don't want to participate, then let him to do that also. Why PUSH.
Good Luck to all of you
i would especially like to address the gentle member above.
dear friend, iv moderators have not forgotten this is an open forum. otherwise this wonderful discussion may not have existed for everyone's pleasure.
please let me know which moderator (and when) has been pushy and abusive.
please choose your words carefully.
remember it's an open forum? or did you already forget. if an individual member chooses to use that to push for participation, then why object so loudly? or is it open only to views you like?
as for being convinced, good luck pal. if the current state of retrogression won't convince you to travel a hop skip and jump away from your comfortable home to DC, then maybe a few years of waiting or name checks or god forbid- loss of a job will. you are a free being. but a wise person learns from others who have taken the knocks already. that we don't learn- is precisely the reason we are here today.
Anyways, I think the moderators should not forget that this is an open forum also.
2. IV is a very good cause, but all of us (affiliates to moderators) and moderators should try to explain this in any way they want but please NOT BE PUSHY, AND ABUSIVE.
3. In this way, who so ever wants more participation, let him/her come forward. But at the same time, if anybody is not convinced or don't want to participate, then let him to do that also. Why PUSH.
Good Luck to all of you
i would especially like to address the gentle member above.
dear friend, iv moderators have not forgotten this is an open forum. otherwise this wonderful discussion may not have existed for everyone's pleasure.
please let me know which moderator (and when) has been pushy and abusive.
please choose your words carefully.
remember it's an open forum? or did you already forget. if an individual member chooses to use that to push for participation, then why object so loudly? or is it open only to views you like?
as for being convinced, good luck pal. if the current state of retrogression won't convince you to travel a hop skip and jump away from your comfortable home to DC, then maybe a few years of waiting or name checks or god forbid- loss of a job will. you are a free being. but a wise person learns from others who have taken the knocks already. that we don't learn- is precisely the reason we are here today.
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andy garcia
12-30 01:04 PM
Longq,
Are these info are based on good guess? If not, can you provide us some link, or attach jpg with highlighting relevent facts.
From November 2005 Visa Bulletin
HOW IS THE EMPLOYMENT-BASED PER-COUNTRY LIMIT CALCULATED?
Section 201 of the INA sets an annual minimum Family-sponsored preference limit of 226,000, while the worldwide annual level for Employment-based preference immigrants is at least 140,000. Section 202 sets the per-country limit for preference immigrants at 7% of the total annual Family-sponsored and Employment-based preference limits, i.e. a minimum of 25,620.
* The annual per-country limitation of 7% is a cap, meaning visa issuances to any single country may not exceed this figure. This limitation is not a quota to which any particular country is entitled, however. The per-country limitation serves to avoid monopolization of virtually all the visa numbers by applicants from only a few countries.
* In recent years, the application of the rules outlined in AC21 has allowed countries such as China � mainland born, India, and the Philippines to utilize large amounts of employment numbers which would have otherwise gone unused.
* During FY due to anticipated heavy demand, the AC21 provisions are not expected to apply, and the amount of Employment numbers available to any single country will be subject to the 7% cap. It is anticipated that the addition of unused FY-2005 Family numbers and the remaining AC21 numbers to the 140,000 annual minimum will result in an FY-2006 annual Employment limit of 152,000. This will mean an Employment per-country limit for FY-2006 of approximately 10,650.
* To illustrate the effect of the reduced per-county limitation during FY-2006 on the oversubscribed countries, it should be noted that during FY-2005 India used approximately 47,175 Employment numbers.
Are these info are based on good guess? If not, can you provide us some link, or attach jpg with highlighting relevent facts.
From November 2005 Visa Bulletin
HOW IS THE EMPLOYMENT-BASED PER-COUNTRY LIMIT CALCULATED?
Section 201 of the INA sets an annual minimum Family-sponsored preference limit of 226,000, while the worldwide annual level for Employment-based preference immigrants is at least 140,000. Section 202 sets the per-country limit for preference immigrants at 7% of the total annual Family-sponsored and Employment-based preference limits, i.e. a minimum of 25,620.
* The annual per-country limitation of 7% is a cap, meaning visa issuances to any single country may not exceed this figure. This limitation is not a quota to which any particular country is entitled, however. The per-country limitation serves to avoid monopolization of virtually all the visa numbers by applicants from only a few countries.
* In recent years, the application of the rules outlined in AC21 has allowed countries such as China � mainland born, India, and the Philippines to utilize large amounts of employment numbers which would have otherwise gone unused.
* During FY due to anticipated heavy demand, the AC21 provisions are not expected to apply, and the amount of Employment numbers available to any single country will be subject to the 7% cap. It is anticipated that the addition of unused FY-2005 Family numbers and the remaining AC21 numbers to the 140,000 annual minimum will result in an FY-2006 annual Employment limit of 152,000. This will mean an Employment per-country limit for FY-2006 of approximately 10,650.
* To illustrate the effect of the reduced per-county limitation during FY-2006 on the oversubscribed countries, it should be noted that during FY-2005 India used approximately 47,175 Employment numbers.
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srgadi
07-04 08:21 PM
Aren't we over-estimating the overall $$ loss? Assuming we will eventually file for I-485, some of the fees that other members are mentioning are not really a waste.
I spent about $2500 in attorney fees but I do not consider this a waste. The next time I file for my I-485, all my paperwork is ready and I am assuming my attorney won't charge me again (atleast not another $2500).
I spent $360 for medical but it is valid for 1 year. If by any chance I can file for my I-485 within the next year, this is not a waste.
Filing fees are all going to come back. So it should not be counted as money spent. Photos would also come back (hopefully).
Only $$ loss I see as of now are the fedex charges and other micellaneous spendings. For me it is around $500. Not so bad....
I spent about $2500 in attorney fees but I do not consider this a waste. The next time I file for my I-485, all my paperwork is ready and I am assuming my attorney won't charge me again (atleast not another $2500).
I spent $360 for medical but it is valid for 1 year. If by any chance I can file for my I-485 within the next year, this is not a waste.
Filing fees are all going to come back. So it should not be counted as money spent. Photos would also come back (hopefully).
Only $$ loss I see as of now are the fedex charges and other micellaneous spendings. For me it is around $500. Not so bad....
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shoooker
04-09 12:56 PM
Guys.. i'm sick of this nonsense.. I mean this is ridiculous.. this is my second go around in this stupid lottery.. last year I hadn't graduated so they put me in the bachelors quota.. this year the freaking masters quota is full.. i have a genuine offer from one of the big 4 accounting firms.. and have work experience to back it up
i'm sick of these consultant firms.. i wish I could work for the uscis and weed out these miserable cheapsters.. 6 years toiling in their education system, paying the damn taxes, and waiting for 1 smart person to come along and tell them its time to take care of these consultant companies and their consultants who get the jobs based on deceit and conmanship..
simple non sense.. random selection .. my behind..
I really feel like sending flowers to the uscis similar to what the indian folks did last year..
i'm sick of these consultant firms.. i wish I could work for the uscis and weed out these miserable cheapsters.. 6 years toiling in their education system, paying the damn taxes, and waiting for 1 smart person to come along and tell them its time to take care of these consultant companies and their consultants who get the jobs based on deceit and conmanship..
simple non sense.. random selection .. my behind..
I really feel like sending flowers to the uscis similar to what the indian folks did last year..
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perm2gc
12-20 06:21 PM
Does USCIS provide any clear documentation regarding the Visa Allocations?
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EkAurAaya
10-11 04:30 PM
Yes Sir. Unfortunate for labor not cleared in time.
EB3 RIR March 2005.
Off topic - Didn't PERM start in March 2005?
EB3 RIR March 2005.
Off topic - Didn't PERM start in March 2005?
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HarshJ
10-02 01:50 PM
If you have the receipt #s cant you approach the local service center with infopasss and request expedited processing?
wcs
03-05 09:32 AM
Hello,
As we are aware that Immigrationvoice is going to send massive letters to Mr. President by saying broken immigration system.
Does anyone know that those letters already sent to white house or not? If yes, is there any reply from white house or not.
Please share it here.
As we are aware that Immigrationvoice is going to send massive letters to Mr. President by saying broken immigration system.
Does anyone know that those letters already sent to white house or not? If yes, is there any reply from white house or not.
Please share it here.
BarneySha
07-23 09:24 AM
Here's my timeline:
Self e-filed: May 15, 2008
Docs sent: May 23, 2008
FP: Jun 12, 2008
Card prod ordered: July 22, 2008
EB3-I / PD: Jan 2003 / I-485 - RD: Jun 2007
Will post if we got 1 or 2 yr duration EADs just as soon as I get the cards in hand.
Good luck fplks. Proc times is not accurate after all!
Self e-filed: May 15, 2008
Docs sent: May 23, 2008
FP: Jun 12, 2008
Card prod ordered: July 22, 2008
EB3-I / PD: Jan 2003 / I-485 - RD: Jun 2007
Will post if we got 1 or 2 yr duration EADs just as soon as I get the cards in hand.
Good luck fplks. Proc times is not accurate after all!
