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  • ps57002
    10-11 05:25 PM
    Wish I could say something to help those who missed feel better. I was fortunate. My PERM (atlanta center which is another slow goer but nowhere like BECs) got approved on Aug 14. I filed aug 17 but don't think I submitted all needed docs due to unavailabilty of some. I saw some people at Atlanta center wait for much longer than PERM should take and they gave up. My heart goes out to everyone. We do need to become involved with it those who are ahead in the game, be those stuck in Atlanta PERM, be those stuck in BEC and/or coming out of it now. Each and every person must join so as to fix this broken immigration system. People are stuck in differnet stages and it's not fair, so do get involved and help IV in helping you.

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  • hebbar77
    05-18 06:17 PM
    In india we created so many types of quotas, some of us cant even live there expecting fairness.
    Now here? ....! Jees!

    I want a quota so that I get my GC tomorrow, though I have no valid reason.

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  • p7810456
    06-23 12:22 PM

    where are you guys taking these? Fedex kinko's would be fine? any pointers in the NY-NJ area?

    I got mine from Walmart, after i heard from couple of my friends. they give 6 photos for 8 bucks or something, where-as if you go to places like Walgreens or CVS.. they only give 2 photos for 8 bucks.

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  • hebbar77
    05-18 01:26 PM
    Me too!

    There are good and not so good schools here for MS /PhD. Either way why a seperate quota for US MS/PhD. Is a foreign MS/PHD any inferior?
    Just a thought..
    Especially IIT/IISc are not too bad schools in india!


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  • posmd
    04-01 07:01 PM
    Sent mine.

    Lets get to 400 before monday.

    Remember guys numbersUSA are planning to show up at senators offices monday. The lease you can do is fax!

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    06-17 04:54 PM


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  • Better_Days
    03-26 03:39 PM
    Can't agree more. This is nothing but harassment. What has drivers license got to do with employment or immigration status ?

    I don't understand how many of our members think that this is the right thing to do. Haven't we got enough chains on us already ? :rolleyes:
    I feel like this is an example of how messed up this country is becoming. I used to work in Dubai and you need to show a copy of your visa page and employer letter for things like

    1. Getting an internet connection . I kid you not: DSL became available thru Etisalat and I needed a copy of my visa page before I could get an internet connection,

    2.Driver's License. This one takes the cake: I needed a letter from my employer stating that HE IS OK WITH ME APPLYING FOR A DRIVING LICENSE. Not an EVL but an EAL (Employer Authorizing Letter)

    What does it tell you when you reach a situation where the laws and policies within individual US states start bearing resemblance to those used by medieval monarchies.

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  • SkilledWorker4GC
    07-08 04:32 PM
    I dont think we could expect such thing from our community as we are born selfish and scared of things. Everone is just hoping that some miracle will happen and everyone will get their GCs. Or else people are happy with EAD/h1b renewals.We really lack the kind of leadership and atitude we had before independece both at home in india and here.I think people have made immigration problems as part of the many problems they have in their lives.

    Leave alone ABCDs, Vinodh Khosla ka Ghosla, or Jindals or all the big shots ATA or TANA.
    For a moment - lets look at our own community that is affected.

    For all those who are not affected - this may seem a non issue except for universities, hospitals, and companies like MSFT etc.. where competition and talent is of high importance and where talent cannot be compromised and this mess is affecting them - it is OONLY these people who will support us and that too, they press more on h1b rather than green cards because they want man power and dont mind if it is h1b or GC. For an avg desi or any immigrant who is looking for a h1b, he has NO clue about this mess and will be glad to embrace the H1b quota increase and OPT extensions as everyone think GC is not an issue these days.

    For a moment - look at the community that is affected - people like us. WE have to be on top of this. The backlogs seem to be close to a million and look at the number of people trying to do something about the situation. Anti immigrants paint us in bad light, media confuses our issues and writes rubbish, Lou Dobbs makes baseless comments and everyone in our community does nothing but trying to track EAD etc... A handful of people make phone calls, a handful send letters, a handful help IV. Others just sit and watch and pretend they don't know anything. When we make request to join state chapters very few join. Out of that very few actively participate in activities. When IIV asks people to enter a correct profile - very few do it.

    Things will improve ONLY of the entire community stands up on their own without expecting others to do something for them


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    06-02 02:04 PM

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  • newuser
    03-22 08:34 PM
    Anyone interested in meeting the lawmakers around Philadelphia, please respond or send a PM..


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  • meridiani.planum
    07-20 03:37 AM
    History does not repeat itself. The historians repeat one another.
    Max Beerbohm

    Sir Beerbohm was a parodist. I hope you have not taken something he said in satire and made it your life's mission statement ;)

    If we are going to quote humorists, heres one that shares my view:

    You must learn from the mistakes of others. You can't possibly live long enough to make them all yourself. ~ Samuel Levenson

    I guess it does make life more exciting when we make decisions without thoughts to the past but I prefer learning from others experiences. Rather make new mistakes than do something stupid that 3 other people had already done.

    You are of course entitled to your own views on life and debating this is perhaps of no use.

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  • jediknight
    07-16 07:37 PM
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    I wonder what they will say when Hispanic and Black cops stop white folks and say "oops we thought they were Canadian" :D

    Russ and Beck will then start complaining of reverse racism.

    BTW, I am against illegal immigration and the way to solve is to remove quotas for legal immigration and Jail Time for employers who don't use E-Verify.

    - JK


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  • satishku_2000
    05-31 01:35 AM
    I am on a non immigrant visa and am fairly close to getting my green card through EB-1 under current system - so am basically screwed if the new law passes. I have sent my share of web faxes and have made my wife/ friends at work do the same. I view green card as a logistical convenience and not a do or die thing. If GC does not work out and my work visa upper limit expires - my company would move me elsewhere (or I can get another job somewhere else)....I dont consider myself beholden to any country except India (my country of birth) and would happily move around till I can afford to settle down comfortably in India

    However, if I think rationally without being condescending, here is my take:

    Legislators in a democratic country are answerable to the people who vote (that excludes all of us). If the Indian MPs start listening to the thousands of neighboring country (no offence intended - just illustration of a point) immigrants while making up their mind on any legislation - I would be damn pissed off - regardless of whether they pay taxes or not.

    When we all came to US on work visas - US Govt did not make any promises about green card nor did they extend an express invitation to most of us (there may be some exceptional scientists/ educators etc here and I beg their apology)......the contract was between us and sponsoring employers..not with the US Govt...US Govt may choose to legislate the way they deem fit without asking us or listening to us- regardless of what 1 million folks have to say

    The opposition to the new law from skilled, legal non-immigrants is not united....nor are the demands uniform....a divided front can never be a strong front.

    No matter what IV or any other organization does (not to take anything away from the great work being done here)......the senators/ congressmen would listen only to those who have voting rights....I dont think anything is being done here to change public opinion of the common US citizen.....and I am not even sure how to do that....common US citizens think that Indians (and other work visa holders) are here to take away the nice white collar jobs which they took for granted.......

    Senators/ congressment do not (and they should not in a real democracy) have any opinion - they are supposed to mirror the opinion of the voting majority...the reason they care about the illegal immigrants is because the ethnic segment from which an overwhelming number of illegals come from - their legal US citizen brethren have put their electoral weight behind this.....since many families are like 50% legal and 50% illegal......

    with all due respect to you sir, Can you please explain us what to do? If someone want to pack bags and leave they can always do that and my humble advice to those people is dont waste your time on these forums.

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  • inthehole
    06-19 04:27 PM
    Can you please send me a copy?. I will really appreciate it.


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  • somegchuh
    11-26 04:06 PM
    I don't think 15-20% drop in 5 years is speculative at least not in California. CNN Money actually predicts a 31% drop in prices in East Bay of SF Bay Area! This is probably the worst time to get into housing market, at least in CA.

    But I agree with quality of life issue. Even the most luxurious apartment does not compare with a house. Having a backyard and a garage are the biggest and the best things that apartments do not have. Also, having your own house gives you a sense of belonging. Renting a house won't give you the same feeling. Also, I know more than one friend who used to rent a house but had to move out because the landlord decided to sell when the lease was over.

    So apartment doesn't offer the same lifestyle and renting a home might make you move every few years involuntarily. Best thing to so for those in CA itching to live in a house would be to rent a house that the owner is very unlikely to attempt selling. Any ideas on how to determine what houses are actually just rental property and and not really targeted for sale?

    I agree with some of your points. However each one of us is in a different situation and have different ways of dealing with situations. If you are happy with your current situation including renting, that's well and good for you.

    However taking a generalized view of the entire US housing industry and expecting 15-20% drop in 5 years is highly speculative. Such speculation maybe true for some housing markets like California, Arizona, Florida and the East Coast. However its not true for the mid-west where prices have been more stable. Besides job loss can occur even if one is on a GC. Nothing is permanent in this country. You always need mobility and that's the reason you have several professionals living in one city and working in another. Its not the end of the world loosing your job one city. There are always alternatives like the one just described.

    I strongly advocate looking at your current situation before thinking about buying a home. The lifestyle and quality of life experienced by living in a home is unmatched even by living in the most luxurious apartment. The security from owning a home comes from knowing your have your own place and mortgages payments you make help you in increasing your equity in the home which can be utilized in the long-run to start a business or investment in other things.

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  • anilsal
    12-24 11:57 PM
    seem to be like the three classes in railways in Asia. First (EB1), Second (EB2) and Third (EB3). So unfortunate. :(


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  • aadimanav
    05-15 05:50 PM
    Diid yu get an Answer for this my company might be applying in eb3 may be though i have masters degree in comp scince in USA , will this be of any help to folks like us.

    How about this scenario:
    EB3 applicant starts the Masters (in STEM) from US University after the labor is filed and completes while 485 is in pending status.

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  • hopefull
    07-06 09:43 PM
    Looking at your writing skills, I will be amazed if you can get yourself a job in a BPO !! I am sure, you are one illeterate idiot, who just wants to ruffle some feathers and get some attention .. Damn.. I should not be wasting my time reading your messages itself !!!

    BTW forget about the writing skills ..what are your options??

    Nothing other than INDIA if you get kicked out.

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  • morchu
    04-19 11:56 AM
    10+2+1+3 ?

    You have two options:

    1. Prove that the requirement for 3 year diploma, was 10+2+1

    2. Get a very detailed credit by credit evaluation of all the courses you did compared to a US bachelors. I have seen that in many schools in India, just by a 3 year diploma we complete all the credits for a US bachelors (some times even US Masters :) ). Exact credit hours, course description etc may be required in official form.


    So this is actually 16 years of education overall and not 14 as suggested by other member. Sorry to ask, could you confirm this again, or did you mean to say 10+3+1? as you said this is accurate about what other member said.

    11-29 11:26 AM

    Any update on your FP notices yet? am still waiting. Did any one of you file DHS 7001 for ombudsman inquiry?

    Thanks and good luck.

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