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    08-15 11:03 PM
    I am wondering what part RD will paly in this new visa bulletin. In may case, I have PD of April 2002 (EB3-ROW) but RD of March 2007.

    I guess they will still go by RD and I have to wait for 5-6 months. Please correct me If I am wrong?

    That is because the quota system does not apply as well in the 4th quarter of each year. Thats the explanation previously given. EB India has to hope for the end of each fiscal year for some magic to happen.
    EB ROW, please be patient it will be all yours after Oct. 2007 for the next 9 months.:)
    Those EB India stuck in is either now or next year summer. If you don't see yours by Sep't, unless you have a PD pre go into hibernation and wake up in June or July 2008, you might find better luck at that time.

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  • reddymjm
    08-10 01:51 PM
    I am in for it.

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  • Alabaman
    10-20 10:04 AM
    Thanks gclabor07!

    Highly Skilled workers:

    Ensure high skilled workers trained and educated in the United States have the opportunity to stay and work in the United States upon graduation.

    Reform caps for H-1B visa program to rise and fall in response to market conditions. Reduce bureaucracy and waiting times for workers to arrive in the United States.

    Increase available green card numbers to reflect employer and employee demand.

    Extend the ability for H-1B visa holders to renew their H-1B status while waiting for their green card number to become available.

    Ensure available and qualified American workers are given adequate and fair opportunities to apply for available positions.

    The rest of you guys; tell me this is not good for the EB community!!! Immigrants blindly think that Democrats are somehow the only party that will solve every problem of theirs w/o even looking at their agenda.

    It is a no-brainer, McCain has a plan that will benefit us. I know we have no voting powers, but our support (in anyway legally possible) should be for McCain. Period!

    Sweet... but he's going to loose... so what do you do??? Read my previous post.

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  • clockwork
    08-07 12:06 AM
    Type 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007

    EB1-All 41,672 34,168 14,453 31,291 64,731 36,960 26,697
    EB2-All 42,550 44,316 15,406 32,534 42,597 21,911 44,162
    EB3-All 85,847 88,002 46,415 85,969 129,070 89,922 85,030
    EB-All 179,195 174,968 82,137 155,330 246,878 159,081 155,889

    EB1-I 3,543 2,820 1,266 2,998 6,336 3,156 2,855
    EB2-I 21,355 21,310 8,536 16,262 16,687 3,720 6,203
    EB3-I 16,339 17,354 10,647 19,889 23,250 3,006 17,795
    EB-I 41,720 41,919 20,818 39,496 47,160 17,358 26,853

    Overall EB3 has got more numbers than EB2 in last 7 years for all and india specific grouping.

    Hi Sachug22,
    Some of the data you specified does not add up well. For example 2006 India, EB-total is 17,358 but 3,156+3,720+3,006 adds upto 9882.

    Any idea?

    Type 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007

    EB1-All 41,672 34,168 14,453 31,291 64,731 36,960 26,697
    EB2-All 42,550 44,316 15,406 32,534 42,597 21,911 44,162
    EB3-All 85,847 88,002 46,415 85,969 129,070 89,922 85,030
    EB-All 179,195 174,968 82,137 155,330 246,878 159,081 155,889

    EB1-I 3,543 2,820 1,266 2,998 6,336 3,156 2,855
    EB2-I 21,355 21,310 8,536 16,262 16,687 3,720 6,203
    EB3-I 16,339 17,354 10,647 19,889 23,250 3,006 17,795
    EB-I 41,720 41,919 20,818 39,496 47,160 17,358 26,853



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  • senthil1
    06-13 09:40 AM
    I am not supporting consulting ban on h1bs. But even that happens companies will readjust by hiring permanent people. Also big consulting companies will bring more people by L1 and B1. I am working in a consulting company and they do not depend on H1bs though considerable H1bs are there.Still H1b Cap will be reached there is heavy demand for h1b. Also I do not think it is outright ban of H1Bs in consulting. They will allow some form of consulting and they may ban subcontracting in H1b. It depends on how USCIS interprets the law. I hope Congress will not do if anything is bad for country. Infact same rule is there in L1 also. But still I am seeing persons are placed in client sites.
    Of course anti immigrants are trying to block H1b program using this but congress trying this because abuses are more in consulting. When congress realizes this anytime they will remove this restriction if they find some other alternative.

    Now chances of CIR is 30% and 60% chance of statusquo for another 2 years. Even skil bill is passed seperately same restrictions will come as same Senators will be there.

    Some of abuses are
    1. Not paying bench
    2. Lower pay compared to market
    3. illegal agreements
    4. Rotation of people and using H1b for outsourcing(It is not abuse but it is not the purpose of H1b)
    5. Giving ads for recruiting only H1bs

    Let us analyze this thing in depth.

    a) According to the restriction which stops consulting

    New york city--- Desi Companies will be affected. They will not be able bring H1-B.

    CDI, RCG, Bearing Point, Datanomics, .... ..... ... .. there are 1000s of middle vendor which supply the Desi labor to the Wall street companies and more.
    I am just talking about NYC. These laborer comes from desi comapnies.

    With cannot bring H1-B..the middle vendors are screwed and hence the clients. Due you have an idea how many Indians work for the financial companies that are not a direct hire.

    If you stop consulting Wall street's wall will fall. The work that a desi can do in 1 day an american would take three days. At least in my company they have realized it.

    You answer this

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  • vghc
    07-03 12:51 PM
    I remember there was a proposal to give one Green Card per family to eliminate the retrogression for EB categories. I don't know what happen to that. It was like one year ago or so.

    Yes, i recall seeing that too.
    I don't like seeing families being torn apart......the best solution is to increase the number of GC for all of us. But that won't happen. :(
    So the next best thing in my opinion, is to give GC's to principle applicant. That would benefit the country as a whole and all those who are working in this country.


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  • Green.Tech
    03-05 10:14 PM
    I always believed that everyone out here is atleast a grad with a degree. Isn't it what the minimum requirement for EB Category 3 ?

    Correct me if I am wrong.

    Undergraduate degree = Bachelors
    Graduate degree = Masters

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  • gvenkat
    10-20 02:38 PM
    Look, no one is saying that McCain is the savior, but at the same time, it is important for us to understand that Obama is not the light at the end of the tunnel, its the fast approaching train towards us. So, some of us are just pointing to others that be prepared for the train wreck. That does not necessarily translate into saying that McCain is the savior. It just means what it means.

    And you are right, none of us can vote. But if this community supports Obama, its like 300 million Americans voting for the President who works against the interest of majority of Americans. Won't we also be guided by the "misguided" ideology and rhetoric if we act in the same manner.

    The irony of the situation is, we are caught between the rock and the hard place. Some of us are saying its better to stay on rocks, others are preaching that its better to be caught in the hard place. That's all.


    go read my post again. what we need is change. mccain wont do that. he will go to war with iran and our problems will be in the backburner, atleast even if obama is not supportive as much as mccain is we dont need to frigging wait this long... we will either get it or not get the GC. but beofre that we need our jobs and if mcain is there.. we might not have it for long...


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  • morchu
    07-24 11:18 AM
    There is one guy I know of mentioned that his 485 package was returned after the July 2nd update.

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  • neelu
    12-13 01:01 PM
    All , this subject has been raised very often and every time new members join in they start a thread and start questioning it.

    - IV has indepth explored and studied this option and have found that this change is not possible administratively.
    - we have not just met a lawyer. we have met few lawyers. we also have communicated with USCIS in the past.
    - In the past some administrative changes have been done by USCIS, but this change cannot be done by them. All, we already had this idea long long ago and we also thought that why dont we do it if it so simple and then we dont have to go through all the legislative hurdles. But NO it cannot be done by USCIS.
    - Faxing USCIS will not work. USCIS does not take policy decisions. We need to approach policy makers to get it done and that is what we are doing. By coming up with ideas, endlessly discussing despite explaination by IV and not working with IV action items we will all go in divergent directions and lose focus on the main action items we want each every member should focus. If you really feel for some idea and want to help, instead of asking IV to give explanation to every question on the forum, contact any of the active IV core members on the forum and bounce ideas. We need people with ideas and also same people willing to work on them too.
    - If it was possible to get it done administratively, then in the current Skil bill push we would have/ and lawmakers would also have just asked USCIS to implement it.

    Hope this explains this topic. Thanks

    Our dear Pappu,

    I understand how difficult it must be to respond to so many questions directed towards core members, and can understand how frustrating it can be to answer repetitive questions.

    So thanks for clarifying this again for many of us who thought an easy route was available (but half knew that it was there, it would have been taken).

    But can I please add that if this question has been asked repetitively, I think it warrants to be added to the "The Employment-Based Green Card: Process and Problems" section on the home page, so people can find the answer easily that searching our huge forum database. I understand that each of you are very busy and feel bad that I am adding additional work.

    Thank you.


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  • GCapplicant
    07-18 10:23 AM
    Mine reached on July 2nd 9:01 AM. I don't think they must have rejected any application. I think, if someone is saying "rejected" means USCIS refused to accept the fedex, in which case package should be returned back to lawyers in 3/4 days.
    If your package was accepeted by USCIS then it would be on hold and based on yesterday's news, now it should be ready for processing. I am checking this with couple of lawyers and I will update this thread with anything I find out.

    Exactly,Even I think so...If they did not want to accept they would have done at the door step.So I think better we can wait and see for another week if any cases are like that.My lawyer mentioned she hasnt got any rejections until now.She has been sending continuous applications even a week before during this problem.She mentioned last week that she is still sending applications in and has Fed ex delivery confirmations for all the applications.

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  • ramaonline
    04-20 06:04 PM
    I live in the bay area, I am available for making calls and also any other work for the event before 4:00 pm - sent a pm


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  • pcs
    11-12 05:16 PM
    First step... all of us send two letters each to USCIS / Dept of State....

    Please suggest the name and address asap......

    Next step, after 1st Jan we seek help from court to address this issue...

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  • angelfire76
    09-28 04:33 PM
    Having worked for short periods of time in Germany and Netherlands, I would say that they very much make you feel that you are a foreigner, you can never fit in and are most unwelcome in the country. What irked me is the attitude that they will take your money gladly but don't want you there.
    In fact when I was looking for accomodation in Stuttgart the first thing the landlords asked me was "When are you going to leave?".
    The US may have it's faults, but I've never been asked that question by property owners, only by consulate officers.
    No thanks, I would rather move back to India than work as a third-class citizen in Europe. :mad:

    Somebody said our own Asian migrants are against us. I can see their viewpoint. We are perceived to pose a threat to the well-being of their children and they do have a sense of entitlement just because they happened to come here earlier. Can't change that attitude. We can also see that in some people who haven't yet got their green cards or are newly minted resident "aliens". E.g. Entitlement due to Master's degree from US, Consultants vs FTE, Desi company consultants vs American company consultants etc. Did we ever stop and think that the system does not even need to play "Divide and Conquer" in a house already divided?

    I frankly think that to an average joe in the US all of us are just another brown guy or chinaman etc. (apologies to the non Asian members of IV) and we don't need to feel that we are somehow superior to the other immigrant.


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  • GCNeophyte
    08-13 10:41 AM
    EB-3 keyboard tigers are back to discuss how to get GC'ssssss:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Yes , we are... Look who is rolling eyes :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: @ your facebook profile.

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  • willwin
    03-17 03:12 PM
    Right. But here USCIS plays its villain role. What happens is USCIS moves clock ahead depending upon last month's "demand." We always think stramline logic.. USCIS does not work that way. It will kick PD to x date for an example Dec 2002. Now at the same time it will keep RD at say for example july 2001..Now it will keep some files eating dust in Name check so end effect is "Some" will get their gC. So next month, seeing this "demand" USCIS will kick PD further.. same game.. I believe at some level it decides seeing it reaching to "3500" limit put a break. So in reality what happen is even though USCIS kicks PD ahead not "all applicants with valid PD" get their GC. If they are unlucky enough to stuck in name check or RD is not being current, they will again wait for years for next kicking cycle start from April 2001.

    But when that happens, I guess, guys in CP wil get their interview scheduled (as long as their PD is current; no RD date concept there) as the queue in CP is not as long. Correct?


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  • vin13
    11-13 09:29 AM
    If you do not have the time to meet the lawmakers or their aides, call them over the phone explain the situation and email the letter.

    If 100s' of us try and 1 succeeds, we all succeed.

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  • nomi
    12-11 02:48 PM
    Since this has always been pushed through legilative means (S.1932), there might be a hurdle involved in using "Rulemaking" approach to this solution, nevertheless this idea should atleast be explored. Here is how rulemaking procedures work in Govt Agency: (Adding Flexibility is something that can be done through Rulemaking).

    Adding flexibility. More detailed regulations allow for more nuanced approaches to various conditions than a single legislative standard could. Moreover, regulations tend to be more easily changed as new data or technologies emerge.

    I think we should study that how does USCIS make new rule without going into Congress and then see how can we implement this rule or atleast ask them to consider this option.

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  • namecheck3yr
    02-21 11:26 AM
    I am trying to immigrate to this country. I feel that I have my own responsibility to make this country a better place. From my own experience, I know that the namecheck is the most ridiculous process, needs immediate fix:
    1. What is the legal base? No legal base makes it become such a black hole.
    2. No time frame, they can use �case by case�, �national security� as excuses to randomly delay your cases.
    3. It�s a lottery, we can only pray, some people get it cleared in one month, some more than 3 yrs.
    4. Case by case? We�ve got a lottery program. Where is the justice, the fairness? How should those affected people plan their living and become a productive citizen?
    5. National security? You should not give those �terrorist suspects� more that 3 yrs of freedom! Should it be done earlier before they enter this country?
    6. The 911 terrorist attacks did not directly affect most people, but name checking makes many people very anxious. They are amplifying the effect of the terrorist attacks and that is what the terrorist wants. What is the efficiency of this measure?
    7. No transparency, nobody knows how they do it.
    8. Not responsive, you cannot get any meaningful response except those excuses.
    9. You are guilty first, you do not have any chance to provide any assistance to them, and they won�t request any either.

    retrohatao willgetgc2005 wam4wam & stirGC,

    Thank You for your input. This is very helpful to highlight the name check problem. The problem description and proposed solution by retrohatao are very good. However, just allow me to share a bigger picture. There is no difference between any issue is being categorized by someone to be a sub-issue or if an issue is categorized as main issue. What is important is that the issue is being addressed ....

    willgetgc2005, just so that you know, I am also stuck in name check since June-04 and my 485 is pending since Oct-03. Just like you, this issue directly affects me. No doubt this is a very important issue. As berkeleybee mentioned, this is being addressed and communicated to the lawmakers and CA team did an excellent job in making the presentation to the lawmakers.

    Even though name check delay issue directly affects people like you and me, know that this is not the only important issue. The point is, many people only care about getting to the next stage of GC process. If someone's labor is stuck, that group thinks that labor certification clearance should be the top priority. If someone's 140 got rejected, then that issue should be the only issue on IV's agenda. If someone is not able to apply for 485, then that person wants to make that as the top priority. If someone is a PHD, then that person wants the top agenda should be to get GC to the guy who has PHD and the argument presented to us is - don't you get it, I am a "PHD". The other day there was a group of people including techworker_tn1, helpful_leo etc who wanted to form their own group for PHDs. And now, if someone's name check is delayed, then we say that everybody will have to go through it sometime in the later stage, so this issue should be on the fore-front of the list of issues.

    I am slightly perplexed by the behavior of some members who seems to indicate that we are in some sort of race with one another. And these members seem to send out a message that says - if their issue is not listed as top priority goal then all other issues that IV is working to resolve or all the work being done by IV is worthless. I am slightly disturbed to read posts like the one from wam4wam which says that he/she hopes that bill is not passed till his/her name check is cleared.

    This is a sincere request to everybody. If all that we think about is 'what's in it for me', then we cannot find commonality among ourselves. And thus no progress is possible. Know that with this thought process, nothing will happen.

    IV is an organization made by people like you and me. If everybody's objective is to get to the next stage of green card process, know that we are not behaving like matured and "educated" class that we all claim to belong. Just reaching the next stage of the process is something like looking for instant gratification which actually doesn't help the cause or the complete green card process.

    Most humbly, I would like to request you to post your experiences with how many people you have communicated about the efforts of IV? How many people you have convinced to join IV? What is the success rate? Were you able to persuade the people to contribute for this cause? Those things will help more than anything else. If IV is bigger and stronger, we can together address each and every issue. Ask yourself, how is it possible to continue to include more agendas and not come up with more helping hands and more resources and expect to succeed?

    If you do not see a favorable post or see a post that doesn't contain something that you want to hear, please do not infer that nobody cares or as if no one is doing anything. That post may just express somebody's opinion. I must mention that everybody wants their agenda to be pushed to the top. If there is some sort of a debate from others in the forum, I see that group of people starts backing off and starts posting messages to communicate as if this forum or IV is not doing what it should; Or some people start posting messageas hoping that bill will not pass if their agenda is not addressed.....and on and on. Please let me share that this doesn't help anybody.

    retrohato, Would you like to take the lead on making name check to the forefront and address it in every possible manner? IV needs sincere people like you who can spend time to do each task. We have very good ideas on how to approach this issue and find a solution to this issue. If you could please take the lead on this issue, know that name check is top priority of IV. I would request you to please call us at anytime convenient for you and express that you would like to work on this issue. We need people who are ready to take ownership of issues and are ready to deliver. Would you like to join this effort actively?

    Just so that everybody know, Immigration Voice could include 'World Peace' as one of the agenda items. But just including something as Goal doesn't mean that it can be achieved. To achieve anything that is listed as goals or to meaningfully add anything to the goals we need more serious people and more resources. If you are interested to actively contribute, please call us and we will connect you to the larger group of people to team-up the work for this issue. It is ok if you are not able to participate actively. It would help if you could please encourage others to take up the responsibility. Just because people are not agreeing with you, posting negative or discouraging messages will not help anybody.

    America is a great nation. That is why we want to stay here and want our GC sooner. JFK once said that 'Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country'. One of the reasons why America is Great is because of the people of this great nation delivered what JFK said. We all could learn from this and before making any claim to being part of the American fabric or before claiming to be from "educated" class, maybe we need to stop behaving in way that only sends out the message 'what's in it for me'.

    07-07 06:57 PM
    Congrates to all who got approved with PD of 2004. Feels good to know that EB2 india with PD 2004 (Jan to March) getting approval.

    01-16 10:21 PM
    Contributed $20 in Dec and just signed up for $20 per month.

    Can anyone please confirm that we are still going for I-485 provision attached to the appropriation bills in February??

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