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  • ragz4u
    02-20 10:16 PM
    These are the posts by the user hadron:
    For anyone intending to 'vote with their wallet', please keep the following in mind:
    - Only US citizens are allowed to contribute to political campaigns (it is even illegal to give money to a citizen friend and have him contribute as a straw-man)
    - there are regulations regarding political action committees (PAC) controlled by 'agents of a foreign power'

    We are well aware of this and WILL not be contributing to any political campaign. And in any case, where does contributing to political campaign come in the picture? We are just trying to get ourselves heard! Is that illegal in this 'free' country too?

    While I appreciate the enthusiasm of the folks setting up (and I have no reason to doubt the sincerity and honesty of their efforts), I don't see a whole lot on the groups website dealing with the legal aspects noted above.
    And then when I posted:
    A lot of foreign governments and entities legally employ lobbyists in Washington. They are merely getting your voice heard by the people's representatives!
    I am not a US Civics expert, but neither can be everybody else here!
    hadron, just because somebody is Board-certified in one field of Medicine does not make them experts in everything else!
    Please expound your expert views on how to win this battle, and we will follow you if that is the better way! Otherwise, please remember that those who forget the lessons of history (i.e. S 1932 defeat) will have to see them repeated!
    This was what he posted:
    Correct, and they are very careful to be registered with the secretary of state as a PAC or public interest lobbying organization. As you point out I am certainly not an expert on the law in this area, but before you start collecting a lot of money, make sure you have competent advice from someone who is (I looked into registering an immigration related PAC a year ago, after realizing the red-tape and political minefields involved I decided not to do so).

    We are again beating around the bush here. As I have mentioned earlier, we are registering ourselves as a 501C4 org and are not a Political Action Committee from any angle. Hence the red-tape etc that hadron is talking about is not applicable here at all

    Please expound your expert views on how to win this battle, and we will follow you if that is the better way!

    I actually don't know how to do that.

    The reality is, in washington there are two things that open the door of a lawmakers office to a lobbyist:
    - a check from the PAC aligned with his cause
    - evidence that he represents measurable share of voting citizens in the home district of the representative or senator

    And do you see the problem here?

    You guys can't legally contribute to political campaigns and you don't represent voting citizens. So, having a lobbyist might be a first step, but it doesn't mean that your cause will be heard.

    Hadron seems to have a very myopic view for everything. Anything and everything for him leads to a political contributions. How about trying the old fashioned way of making the lawmakers aware of the situation of legal immigrants. I don't know whether he has ever seen a reply to a fax from any senator/rep, but all of these misconstrue our request as being either a) A request to increase H1b quota or b) Give amnesty to illegal immigrants. The fact of the matter is the lawmakers do NOT know about our plight. If you read another post in this forum by the CA team that visited Sen. Dianne Feinstein's office, it came out very loud and clear! They had no clue about our plight. This coming from a senator who handles all the high tech firms in Silicon Valley with thousands of legal alien constituents! Imagine how much a senator from a state with no techie firms (like say South Dakota/Wyoming etc) know about us? Nothing, Nada, Zilch....but their vote is worth as much as any other the primary aim for us as an org is to make every lawmaker realize our plight and influnce their decisions

    Our main ally in the immigration arena is the US chamber of commerce. They are spending considerable money on advocating for employment based immigration reform (their main thrust however is getting access to unskilled workers, either through a guest worker program or through legalization. in a secondary way they are interested in higher H1b quotas to get access to cheap professionals, fixing retrogression is not very high on their agenda). Have you talked to other organizations classically on our side yet ?

    What makes Hadron think that what he believes (that US chamber of commerce is our main ally) is gospel? In case he does not know, there are many other orgs that have a similar agenda. We have made significant progress in establishing relations with many of these orgs. Unfortunately, we cannot reveal everything here. There is more to it than meets the eye! Thats where QGA is helping us immensely

    Otherwise, please remember that those who forget the lessons of history (i.e. S 1932 defeat) will have to see them repeated!

    Please, save me the melodramatics.

    Immigration bills get introduced by the dozen every year, most of them don't even make it into committee (but every time one gets introduced, people here on this board get all excited that finally 'relief is here'.) Even if a coalition of influential senators picks up the issue, there is no guarantee that it will go anywhere.

    True, but how often do you see rallies across the country either pro or anti immigrants? How often do you hear about immigration being a hot issue and being discussed on CNN/Fox everyday? How often does the President address it in his State of the Union address? The fact of the matter is that this issue is really hot right now. Do not forget that this is an election year. A lot of the reps hoping to get reelected from border states like TX.AZ etc had promised their constituents that they will tackle immigration reforms. If they do nothing, they will face the wrath!
    If there was ever a chance of an immigration bill passing, it is now. If that does not happen, forget about any chance of any immigration related stuff happening in the next 5 years. The question we need to ask ourselves right now is, 'Am I going to TRY to do something this time or should I try it after 5 years'. I know my answer is NOW. But if you want to be pessimistic and think that no bill might get passed, you are in the wrong place. You are better off visiting and hope that she announces rapid movement of dates. the primary reason we are all converging here is because we believe that something will happen to the immigration bill and we want to make sure we are not forgotten

    This is last post:
    I am not angry at anyone, and I don't think that any of my posts can be misconstrued to convey that impression.

    I think it is a good idea to start (another) lobbying organization for immigrant rights as the existing ones have a interests very different from us. All the latino groups are only interested in family immigration and legalization of illegals, employment based immigration is only a little blip on their radar screen. Industry on the other hand has their own agenda, again not one coinciding with our issues.

    I just think that some of the people involved in are taking step2 before they have taken step1. They have a nice website (no big suprise with a project run by IT professionals) and are already soliciting contributions, but some aspects of it make me wonder about the level of professionalism involved.

    Just to clarify, we are all people with daily jobs other than Immigration Voice. This is a volunteer organization. Do not expect a macromedia flash welcome screen.

    So as apparently some of the founders of this organization are present on this board, I would like the following questions answered:

    - what is the legal form of your non-profit organization ?

    Its on our home page, but just in case, we have applied for 501 C4 status

    - is this entity registered in any state, if yes in which ?

    Again, the address is listed on the web site.....but since you did not bother to check it, it is NJ

    - who is registered as the owner of the organizations bank account ?

    It is owned by Immigration Voice. Remember, this is a NON Profit organization. It cannot be 'owned' by a person. Again this is on the web site..

    - what is the structure of the organization ? Do you have dues paying members, is there a board of directors, trustees ??

    Yes....if you know about 501 C4 orgs, they all NEED to have an org structure and there are officers and a board of trustees

    - who are the officers of the organization ?

    Everything is in place. 501 C4 cannot be registered without that.

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  • desi485
    01-04 03:09 PM
    So do you mean to say that this is allowed in India? I mean polygamy. I never knew that.

    Muslims (around 20% minority) have this special law accepted by indian democratic government. In fact persons from muslim community can marry upto 4 wives at a time. However I haven't seen this as a common practice. Not sure if that law is changed recently. I guess No other religion is allowed to do so in india. I remember reading some cases in newspaper where people from different religion have converted just to legally marry more than one persons in india.

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  • lccleared
    04-01 04:11 PM
    Fax sent

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  • axp817
    07-07 06:56 PM
    I missed this, will it be aired again, can it be viewed online?



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  • punjabi
    08-28 04:15 PM
    hey guys...

    I read this amazing thread and I am feeling terrible guilty of not going to DC for Rally. I thought contributing $100 was enough.


    Guys: If IV wins and we are able to change the law.....and then someone comes across you and ask:

    "Did You help?"

    What will be your reaction? Will you pump your chest out and scream "YESSSS..."?

    I know, I will. How about you?

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  • ronhira
    07-07 12:35 AM
    Over 60% of the US and 90% of Arizona supports the law they passed. Obama and his Attorney General are doing the wrong thing by interfering with state politics. How can these high ranking officials tell state law enforcement NOT TO enforce laws? The Supreme court will favor AZ even before the case starts. Slam Dunk.

    those numbers.... 60% or 90% are all doctored...... and i'll look at the poll numbers only if both the following conditions are true -

    1.) if i've no brain of my own to differentiate between right or wrong, so i must rely on the poll numbers to help me choose my position

    2.) if i'm a cheap bastard running to get elected in some useless office ..... therefore i must do what is popular than what is right.... i must give up my conscience and i must choose my position looking at the poll numbers......

    i'm afraid that neither of these two conditions apply on me..... so i'll have to disagree with u.....

    so much for u'r slam dunk...... come back and read this after the decision by the US supreme court...... state of arizona does not have legal jurisdiction over federal immigration law. no matter how much evil we see around us... this world is made up of good men and women..... AZ will lose..... federal government is asking AZ to enforce the existing law and disband their illegal & illegitimate bill sb1070 becoz its in violation of the constitution of the country..... applying existing federal law will take supremacy over "AZ immigration law" ........


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  • dpp
    08-10 12:29 PM
    Small change :)

    Everybody (not just Perm) filers hate LS guys as they went ahead of line...
    Backlog guys hate Perm filers as they went ahead of line... This is not true. How come PERM filers can go ahead in line.
    Eb3 guys hate EB3-EB2 conversion guys as they went ahead of line...
    ....and it goes on. This is true :)
    This shit never ends!!!:(

    Strangely, everything is done within the scope of law!

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  • sanjose
    07-13 03:58 PM
    Congratulations !

    To others,

    How about if IV publishes his brief story( off course with his permission), congratulating him on IV behalf, in all national news paper ( with or w.o his name ) Date of entry, profession, long time wait- reasons and all opportunities he may have missed, couldn't buy house, collage-tution probelms etc and all struggles he has his family might have faced. point by point.

    Money would come from special campaign. NY TIMES, USA TODAY, Chicago Tribune, Washington Post, Miami Herald etc. News paper industry is struggling so won't cost much to buy a half/quarter page with a title - " An untold story of legal immigration" Or similar kind of eye catching title. Not more than 10-12 lines stating thousands others are waiting in line...

    There won't be difficult to get more his kind of cases to run it on regular basis in future.

    Any one ?

    I agree 100%. And send one copy of the news paper clipping to OBAMA !!


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  • Atpugkeviv
    12-14 12:31 PM
    The status on USCIS site chagned from initial receipt to approved and sent after about 105 days of receipt notice. I hope I recieve it next few days. I had applied to Dallas lock box - paper application.

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  • saimrathi
    07-06 06:20 PM
    Nothing yet.. Hope its on tomm.. please post correct info..

    just been informed that the newscast is going is to happen tommorow. apparently there was some "breaking" news!! guys make sure you tune in tomorrow!!


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  • Sakthisagar
    10-27 09:21 AM
    From from the article. "On wooing back Indian talent, Murthy said there was no need to increase their salaries by 50 times to ensure this. But their lives could be made easier by providing schools, making sure that power condition and commuting is reasonably all right " Looks like he wants to still have the "less expensive" advantage over non-Indian companies / competition and he just wants more and easy H1B's and does not like the path to permanent residency and eventually citizenship and integrating with the American society - which is what American immigration is for. Just need the $$$. Though there are many good to learn from this company and this man, I do disagree with his views when it comes to immigration to USA.

    To summarise: - Mr.Murthy is saying let all scape goats come to Infosys and get H1 or L1, and we may use you in whatever way we want, by showing some never attainable goals. and use it as chop shop material, get your tax money also as profit while you are in USA. give accomodation in one hotel room with 4 or less people or in an apartment 2 familes in 2 bed room apartment with a one rental car together!, Any way He want to still make $$$$ that is purely evident. by hook or Crook!

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  • cjagtap
    08-01 11:49 AM
    anyone who filed at TSC got receipts? i mean 2nd july guys?


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  • BharatPremi
    11-06 04:35 PM
    gives good insight about the infopass

    Thanks buddy.

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  • kode
    02-03 06:22 PM
    lol .. it's true !! :P

    i didn't see it before .. :crazy:


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  • tnite
    11-07 01:29 PM
    Surprisingly today I got second LUD on AP. Content is changed as under.

    Receipt Number: LIN****

    Current Status: Document mailed to applicant.

    On November 7, 2007 we mailed the document to the address we have on file. You should receive the new document within 30 days. If you do not, or if you move before you get it, call customer service

    I received my AP on Nov 3 and looking at the AP doc it had an approval date of Oct 10 whereas I had "Document mailed to applicant" message on Oct 31.
    I am not sure what happened between Oct 10 and Oct 31st.

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  • MLS
    06-26 03:05 PM
    Congratulations !!
    My PD is Oct 2001.
    Can you please explain what you meant by
    "Senator Inquiry 5 days ago yielded result that cards will be ordered in 30 days" ?
    Did you send an inquiry ? And how ?
    Thanks and regards,

    PD Aug 2001
    RD Jan 2005
    CSC case transfered to NSC in Feb 07
    Senator Inquiry 5 days ago yielded result that cards will be ordered in 30 days.


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  • bkshres
    08-08 09:05 AM
    I am currently on H1B visa and I want to switch the company. New company is not willing to do H1B transfer and want me to work on EAD. I have pending I485 EB3 ROW with priority date of March 2006. Its been more than 180 days that I filed for I485 so I can use AC21 with EAD.
    But my question is how risky will it be if I switch job at this stage with EAD?

    Thanks in advance,

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  • abh
    09-22 01:46 PM
    E-filed : July 22

    Finger Printing : Aug 15

    Card Production ordered: Sep 22

    60 Days

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  • FrankZulu
    08-13 10:50 PM
    My Treasurer's Check will be void after 90 days of issued date.

    Check Issued On: Jun 14th
    Applied AOS On: July 5th.
    Check Expires On: Sep 13th

    Am seriously thinking of applying new AOS without medical exam, EAD & AP after consulting with my lawyer.

    IV Core, any input from USCIS on such issue. Please running out of days.

    07-29 05:10 PM
    In fact, we'll probably see you or your kids standing in line for an Indian or Chinese green card in a few years (and I doubt India or China will focus on diversity when it comes to attracting the most skilled talent).


    Oh ,yes is my dream to move in India or China:D, wait for that, I willl let you know.

    07-02 04:07 PM
    Medicals : $450 (self + spouse)
    Photographs: $25
    Affidavits: $20
    Printing/Copying/Faxing: $30
    FedEx: $60
    Lawyer's Fee: $2,700

    Total: $ 3,285

    Of course, plenty of time, effort and anxiety. May all the USCIS and DOS people responsible for this debacle rot in hell. Amen!

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